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[-] NotLemming@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

At this point the dems seem to have little option but to allow trump to destroy everything at lightning speed or drag it out. Maybe a short sharp shock will wake up the stupid half of the US citizenry.

Oops, did I use the naughty w word?

Maybe I should use the term 'not-sleep'?

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 77 points 1 week ago

Recall them all. Democrats refuse to learn and won’t step down, recalls are our best shot at getting non-corrupt representation.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 week ago

I would love to see their reaction to that happening

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Less than half of US states allow recalls of state representatives and the constitution prevents recall of any federal Congress person by states. We can't.

If an elected official dies in office, there is a special election to fill their seat.

Just saying... 😏

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Wonder how that would work

According to the constitution, it wouldn't.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 69 points 1 week ago

I get the sneaking suspicion that all the "but both parties are the same people" are going to end up kind of right -- but maybe not in the way they thought.

From my vantage point, there is only rich vs poor. Any other ideological divide either a) has been worsened by rich vs poor, or b) was invented to keep attention away from rich vs poor, à la divide and conquer.

[-] Tillman@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

OSCAR W. UNDERWOOD (Nov 8th, 1964) – Senator Underwood was a top contender for the Democrat presidential nomination in 1924. However, he obeyed his conscience by speaking out against the Ku Klux Klan, one of the Democrat Party’s most powerful forces.

His courageous stand cost him the presidential nomination and then his senate seat

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[-] Bojack411@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Lol. "Kind of right". Rich vs poor. Yeah. Same thing dude. Most dems and Republicans get more money while in office. Not 2 times or 3 times. No hundreds of thousand or more. There are a few better than the rest but all of our politicians who can make waves are owned by an outside party with an agenda.

[-] Theonetheycall1845@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I've been screaming this for a while now. It's the 99% VS the 1%. Funny how they can control us with such a small percentage.

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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

I'm only donating to progressives, notably AOC.

I've unsubbed from most Democratic lists.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"They didn't do tricks to delay" is now turned into "helping". JFC is this what people are down to just to say "but but but dems bad!"

[-] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 98 points 1 week ago

Actually yeah. They need to do everything they can to keep these fascists from enacting their agenda. The right did it to Obama when he tried to get Merrick Garland on the supreme court. The Dems should do the same thing.

[-] takeda@lemm.ee 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fuck Merrick Garland he was Republican challenge that they thought Obama won't dare to nominate. When he did they still blocked him.

If he didn't delay investigation into trump while being AG, perhaps he would be in jail right now.

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[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 49 points 1 week ago

Are you surprised that people are upset that democratic leadership is once again showing themselves to be completely spineless in the face of rising fascism?

Why are people like you so hellbound to defend any criticism of the party? No one here is saying Democrats are worse than Republicans, they're just not happy with how obsessed they are with decorum when their opponents are actively trying to force a constitutional crisis.

I voted for Kamala Harris, I'm also exceedingly pissed off at Democrats for decades of thirdway politics, and taking any chance to roll over in the face of opposition.

If we don't criticize our own party then we're never going to change, that's not what the progressive party should be clinging on too. We obviously need to shake up the leadership of our own party or were going to continue seceding control over to fascist.

[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 week ago

Not spineless; willingly complicit

[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago

Not-delaying is helping

[-] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Dems who are voting to confirm are every bit as complicit as the MAGAts who are falling in line to ~~suck~~ vote to confirm.

[-] djsoren19 32 points 1 week ago

If not voting counts as voting, then not delaying counts as helping.

I used to think words meant something too, but it's clear nobody believes that in the U.S. anymore.

[-] maplebar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Delaying" correctly implies that the outcome is inevitable, while not voting is absolutely something that helped Trump win, in the sense that many people who had the power to affect the outcome, and thus keep Trump from taking power, failed to do so.

If you didn't vote, it's either because you were either happy or ambivalent about Trump winning.

Personally, I'm much more mad at the idiot non-voters who made Trump and Republican control an inevitability than I am at just about anyone else at this point. As the government stands today, just about anything that the Democrats can do is merely symbolic, as the Republicans have all of the power over the executive, legislative, and judicial branches for at least 2-4 years (assuming we even have elections in the future). Democrats are politically irrelevant, as decided by the voters (and non-voters) back in November.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Always blame the voters and never fight.

Republicans can always block shit when Democrats have a majority. Funny how it never fucking works the other way around.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 week ago

They've also been voting yes to confirm some of them. So yeah they continue to be utterly useless

[-] juanclaude@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago

I'm not interested in torching democrats either, but their reliance on the patience of progressives has to come back and bite them somehow. We are all watching the right move with lightning speed and wondering why the Democratic party ever convinced us the same couldn't be done for progressive policy.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

convinced us the same couldn’t be done for progressive policy.

Trump is pulling blatantly illegal shit and you're wondering why the Dems don't do the same thing when they're in office???

Bonus round: It's easy to burn things down. Any fucking moron can burn things down. It's not easy to build things up. In fact, it's very, very, very hard to build things.

[-] juanclaude@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

That is the conundrum. Stake your claim in norms and legality while your opponent steamrolls everything to the delight of a generation of people who've lost all patience and you'll always lose. How do you fight that?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

He doesn't want to. He wants everyone to be happy when no one fights it.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

Burn the fucking ICE down then. Or simply prosecute Trump and put him in jail.

It's over either way. While there may be a way out of this, it's not going to be with the current dems, and very likely not a peaceful way either.

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Cannabis is still schedule I. Democrats do tricks to delay when they want to.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You can't be neutral on a moving train. If they aren't even delaying the fascist they're helping.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago
[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago

But we don't have the MAJORITY, everything is supposed to be THEIR FAULT!

IT'S IN THE PLAYBOOK!

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 18 points 1 week ago

What horses do these morons think they're trading?

[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

They're trading magic beans

[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I'm guessing they're doing it because A) they keep playing "the nice guy", B) they want a precedent for their next possible administration, or C) all of the above.

[-] cashsky@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

D) they are spineless cowards and don't want trump to put is crosshairs on them

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 week ago

D) They are controlled opposition, and have been for several decades at least.

[-] Uruanna@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

What precedent? McConnell already set that in stone. And Gingrich before that.

[-] AlbertSpangler@lemmings.world 8 points 1 week ago

Also, what "next possible administration"?

[-] Theonetheycall1845@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

People, teach your kids politics. We need to arm our next generation.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Teach your kids survival and weapons skills. Understanding politics won't be enough to save them

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

not a democracy, and that was so for long at this point

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Christ, I'm just hearing that Curb Your Enthusiasm music all the time. Imagine a slow zoom on Schumer's goofy look up there along with....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MYAGyZlBY0

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