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Since Xorg is getting old, looking at trying Wayland WMs (lemmy.world)
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[-] sudo@programming.dev 27 points 6 days ago

If dmenu was made by a nazi I wouldn't give a shit because its just dmenu but hyprland is so clearly made by a pack of /g/ zoomers who want their desktops to look like 1337 haXors without any access to the low level systems. Its all discord script kiddie hype-beasts.

Its a tiling window manager made by people who never used a tiling window manager on X11. I know I'm sounding like an elitist boomer but this shit really violates some core Unix principals of making small composable utilities that empower the user. RiverWM or Sway keep to this philosophy.

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[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 28 points 6 days ago

too bad the guy behind hyprland is a shitty little nazi twerp

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[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 27 points 6 days ago

Hyprland is transphobic

[-] bastion@feddit.nl 16 points 6 days ago

issue is, so many things have been called transphobic, from mere personal opinions to accidents to actual transphobia, i just can't trust a blanket "foo is transphobic" comment.

[-] girlthing 33 points 6 days ago

Hyprland's community has a history of toxicity: https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/17/Hyprland-toxicity.html

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 15 points 6 days ago

Whoa that GH issue is pretty bad. What a bunch of babies.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago

Who is joining communities for window managers?

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[-] emmy67@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Sounds and smells like actual bullshit to me

[-] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

What? How is software transphobic

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Because people are still Reddit-brained, have no capacity for nuance and thrive on outrage like an addict.

For the addicts with their finger smashing the downvote button:

Elon Musk is an idiot. But that doesn't mean that a Tesla Model S is an idiot.

A Hyprland developer could be transphobic, members who comment in the community could be transphobic but that doesn't make the software transphobic.

Software doesn't have political opinions.

If you want to not be hypocritical and examine all products with the same ridiculous level of scrutiny then you're probably using electronic components in your house, car, smartphone and PC that were sourced using slave labor, child labor or built by countries that engage in human rights abuse.

The electricity used to allow you to uncritically attack people online was generated by means which contribute to climate change which will kill or displace hundreds of millions of people.

The language you're using is primarily used by cultures who have historically engaged in colonialism, piracy, slavery, religious oppression, ethnic cleansing and wars of aggression.

So, unless you're willing to sit in a forest and never communicate with another person, you're going to be using technology which, if you pedantically dig deep enough, you can find some "problematic" behaviors associated with.

Or, you could not act ignorant in online spaces. That's also an option.

[-] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 11 points 6 days ago

For the addicts with their finger smashing the downvote button

Lol, dude, at the 3.5 hour mark since you edited, and the 3.52 hour mark since you wrote the post, you have a whole TWO downvotes. Persecution complex much?

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[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago

Elon Musk is an idiot. But that doesn’t mean that a Tesla Model S is an idiot.

While I agree with the point you're trying to make, Teslas are hot garbage with shit quality control that has led to quite a few deaths. I wouldn't ride in one, let alone buy one. If cars could be idiots, Teslas would be.

A better example would have been SpaceX.

[-] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago

How is a tiling wm transphobic? Seriously get a life.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 21 points 6 days ago

Obviously they meant the community.

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[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 7 points 6 days ago

It's software with no opinion.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

Wayland breaks VMware and steam for me. Am I stupid?

[-] neonred@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

both are still not native and need the XWayland compatibility layer, which is usually (but might be turned off) compiled into your Wayland desktop manager

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[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

In addition to what Neonred wrote: Steam Deck uses Wayland by default and its Steam is configured to run just fine on Wayland, even if it's possibly using XWayland behind the scenes.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago

Old ≠ bad

Personally I don't need fancy. I need stability. If it ain't broken, don't fix it, and I haven't experienced issues with Xorg... But then again, I ditched Ubuntu in 2012 because they switched to that awful search bar launcher doohickey, so I might be a dinosaur in this regard.

[-] fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

If it ain’t broken

But it is...

I still have (or rather had) some screen-tearing somewhere. I very much have annihilated that issue with settings in X11 (though some application somewhere still has issues, be it the video player). And it just feels clunky non the less.

Although I'm currently not using Hyprland, it really feels nice to use, really flowy. I'm currently testing COSMIC (which is reasonably still in alpha, as I got issues with *** nvidia, like suspend sometimes hangs the computer).

That said, I think it's still ok to wait until the whole ecosystem is well supported in wayland, and *** nvidia finally got their wayland shit together.

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[-] dyc3@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

Tried using Wayland recently, but alas, my Nvidia GPU holds me back once again.

[-] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

I've been on bazzite for awhile with a 3090 and it runs pretty great.

Maybe give that a shot if possible

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[-] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I just wish Wayland weren't so weird about screensavers. It's it so much to ask to be able to lock my account when I have a screensaver activated?*

*This is what I'm told is the issue when it's brought up on KDE, i really don't have the wherewithal to actually dig into it. Could be talking out of my ass on this. Hope I am at least.

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[-] starbrite@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago

I'd love to try a tiling wm but KDE and mate are the only things i can get to look the way i like, and i can't find anyone else that made a glossy frutiger aero hyprland rice

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