Most legacy media is controlled by oligarchs and often is only mouth pieces for them.
Alright new atrocity from Israel just dropped, who should we blame:
How about the lemmy people who actively campaigned for trump and attacked anyone for Biden because Biden was anti Palestine. Those people can go fuck themselves. Its a guarantee they swayed votes to trump based on lies.
I keep seeing this sentiment here lately, yet no evidence that it happened on a meaningful scale is ever presented.
Uh, well, I’m not the commenter you’re replying to but I personally saw it all over the place. You didn’t? There was at least one in what felt like every thread for months.
There were a few
lemmy people who actively campaigned for trump
Liar.
Which Lemmy voter actively campaigned for Trump?
They mean people who didn't campaign for Harris hard enough. It's the obvious next step from "if you didn't vote for Harris you voted for Trump"; "if you didn't actively campaign for Harris you actively campaigned for Trump".
That’s disingenuous. It was active campaigning against Harris, saying she and Biden were complicit in genocide and that a vote for either was a vote for genocide. Actively campaigning against one candidate is effectively (if not outrightly) campaigning for that candidate’s rival.
All of the above, plus:
Leftists, regardless of how they voted.
Clearly it's the leftists, they personally didn't vote or voted third party or voted for Trump or whatever we need to say to deflect blame, and they did it in every swing state! It's their fault, not the candidate!
This is sort of strawmanning some of the criticism. Leftists who held up nonvoting as some kind of magic bullet for gaza definitely seem like they are dumber than rocks for thinking nonvoting is the same as strategic voting.
However, There's a bunch of like consultants and dem strategists that have clung to this to scapegoat these people as though there wasn't a long chain of massive errors dems and their braindead consultants weren't heavily involved in.
At the end of the day just stop listening to "not voting is a moral stance" people and put fires under the real culprits: lying republican media and apathetic democrat politicians
Leftists who held up nonvoting as some kind of magic bullet for gaza definitely seem like they are dumber than rocks for thinking nonvoting is the same as strategic voting.
Hey I see you got one one too, nice strawman you got there
I see
do you, really?
Its good to mock those couple hundred people anyway, but to blame them for it is scapegoating. They're obviously kind of dumb but yeah like Joe Biden running for re-election is like probably the #1 dick that Democrats tripped over. Campaigning with abysmally unpopular Cheneys, buying ads on republican media instead of knocking on doors or spending money on dem neutral media, focusing too much on trump instead of on strengths, moving right on immigration all contributed.
2024 was nothing less than a strategic clusterfuck.
Dems should run primaries even when they're running for re-election. Its free coverage and right wing media has to address it.
They stopped running primaries because they almost lost control of the party to Bernie Sanders in 2016.
The DNC will never make that mistake again. It made their doners very upset.
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