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[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 248 points 3 months ago

Finding a farm close where you want is made unnecessarily difficult by the site’s interface. The grouping of states in regions is a hindrance and once you get to your state, the farms can’t be sorted other than by their name, so you have to look through every single one of them to find the farms close to you.

Great idea, terrible execution.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 85 points 3 months ago

But probably not a difficult fix. Websites can be updated.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 35 points 3 months ago

Which is why I’m providing feedback. I really want this to work.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

Who are you providing it to? Because I don't think FlyingSquid made this website.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

People who produce bad design like that, are often resistant to change.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 100 points 3 months ago

Or they're inexperienced and don't know any better.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 45 points 3 months ago

Or they might welcome assistance from someone who knows how to do it, since their expertise is in farming and they don't have a lot of money for web design. Such assistance could possibly qualify as a tax-deductible donation.

As a software developer making enterprise software, that simply isn’t true.

I have been responsible for making some pretty poor design choices and UX flows. I was never resistant to change and more just needed someone to say hey bro that’s dumb, I don’t why don’t we do it like this.

Now I know how to do X and won’t make the same mistakes again.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 3 months ago

Cmd-F or Ctrl-F to search for cities. It's imperfect, but I found seven hits for my city instantly. I could search neighboring cities and towns the same way.

[-] Dashi@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

To add to this comment, it's not hard to find any of this information. "States grouped into areas" scroll to find your state, or again ctrl+f. "Hard to find cities" thankfully living in my area and being somewhat familiar with said area I can scroll down the list and find farmers in my general area. Short of putting in my address and searching for 'closest to' which I hate anyway, this isn't as bad an interface as op suggests.

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[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 127 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is great. Is there something similar for finding local farms regardless of race?

[-] RidgeDweller@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 months ago

You could try researching CSAs in your area. There are a few near me that sell farm shares with weekly pickup of seasonal veggies during harvest season. I'm in northern California, and our rate is under $20 per week after we split it with another couple. We usually receive more veggies than we would buy during a weekly grocery store trip, plus our farm let's everyone pick fresh bouquets each pickup as a nice bonus.

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[-] yarr@feddit.nl 60 points 3 months ago

"Can" cost less is doing a lot of work there. I would guess it would mildly annoy people in power, but TBH this isn't a way to save money. If it really was, it would be common practice already.

There are lots of people who frequent local / smaller farms for things like access to organic foods / rarer crops / community support, but I've never known it to be cheaper than the industrial produce one can get at your nearest supermarket. Supermarkets clobbered local guys for a reason and pricing was a huge part of that.

[-] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

I would guess it would mildly annoy people in power, but TBH this isn't a way to save money. If it really was, it would be common practice already.

Bidets are a cheaper, well known, better way to clean your asshole after taking a shit, yet the common practice of Americans is still to choose to smear their own shit around their asshole with dry disposable paper cloths.

The flaw in your argument is that you think people, Americans at that, wouldn't ignorantly continue to pay more for the convenience of not having to think where to buy their produce, because they can get it from the local Walmart 15 minutes away, instead of saving $20+ and driving 2 more minutes.

Americans are notoriously lazy and stupid, as evidenced this past November.

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[-] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago

It's cool, but buying produce from your neighbors is also cool. Strong communities thrive together

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[-] rabber@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 months ago

Why are Americans so obsessed with skin colour

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's a nation founded on racism and the back of race based slavery. That shit doesn't disappear overnight, unfortunately.

[-] rabber@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

Buying something because it goes to a certain skin colour promotes racism CMV

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago

Don't cut yourself on all that edge before you graduate highschool kid.

[-] constantturtleaction@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The most impactful racism, that is also the hardest to fix, is systemic racism. I think the idea behind buying from black owned businesses is the individuals attempt to offset the systemic racism that they, individually, can do very little about.

[-] lady_maria@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

it is still much more difficult for people of color to become professionally successful than it is for white people. That's a fact. There are still laws in place (and not nearly enough protections), which disproportionately harm POC.

Do they not deserve to be just as successful? To follow their dreams? To be able to support themselves and their families?

Knowing this, why wouldn't you seek out black-owned business to help counter systemic racism? Those in power in the US, at least, aren't going to do it. This is by their design.

I care about the well-being of everyone (well, minus the 1% and Nazis), but those who continue to be harmed by a system—that I directly benefit from as a white person—simply require more attention if we're ever going to have an equitable society.

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[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 36 points 3 months ago

I would really like an Imperfect Foods replacement. Originally, IF was scratch and dent ugly veggies on discount with some consignment items. Post covid, prices crept up and then you had to pick and choose to get a deal, but you could still get a good box for under $40 every 2 wks that also included things like farro and yogurt. Misfit Marketplace bought them out and it took on a Whole Foods by mail vibe. Double to triple the regular grocery store prices. It would be $80+/week for the same box content which is galling. And it’s not the groceries, it’s MM. Who is paying $3 for 1 cucumber? $4 for 2 apples? $8 for a single pound of grapes or a pint of blueberries?

New potential produce sources are most welcome.

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[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 33 points 3 months ago

In Taiwan, we had "day markets" where local farmers and fishers sell produce directly to you from the previous day's harvest. Every city has at least a few dozen day markets as well. It really serves the community and not big corps.

Some veggies still have live bugs(ladybugs) on it. That's how fresh it is.

It also cost 1/4 the cost in a corporate grocery store.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

We (the US) have farmers markets in a lot of places. They can have very specific times that I always forget about. Around here in the northern climate, the farmer markets stop during the winter or move indoors and shift to selling more jarred and canned goods. My neighborhood has a coop, but it's more expensive than the grocery store and with a worse selection. We have options here, but they require more thoughtfulness.

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

That was a culture shock for me when I moved to the US. I knew that back in the day, in rural areas of my country, the markets only opened once a week. I was shocked to find that happen in urban/suburban areas in the US. Back home I could just go to the closest market any day. Morning news would have a report comparing prices in different markets across the city, so you could pick the one that has the best price for what you need that day.

[-] FatTony@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago

I rather not give people money by merit of the colour of their skin, though. Fuck me, right?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The fact that it's cheaper for you and they get paid more than the middle man would pay should be enough for you.

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[-] Dr_Nik@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

So every "farm" in my region is actually a community plot you can rent space in or a non profit outreach...no farms to purchase from.

[-] other_cat@lemmy.zip 25 points 3 months ago

Sadly and unsurprisingly, nothing near me. On the bright side, we do have a farmer's market so I'll just continue to patron that and say that if you have one near you, definitely check them out!

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[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

To everybody saying "reverse racism" or whatever your wording is to imply that buying specifically from black people is problematic, why? Do you think that you would have a hard time finding a white run CSA to buy? This is just a resource for people interested in supporting the black community and frankly I see any form of opposition to it as pretty blatant racism itself. I'll return from a Google search with what I find for other race specified CSA indexes in a bit.

I'm back,

https://www.queerfarmernetwork.org/

Here's an LGBTQ farm share directory. Is it reverse bigotry to purchase from them? I had to play with search terms a bit but a combination of CSA, farm share, agriculture share, and your chosen identifier should produce you results.

I am genuinely looking for an answer because I'm fucking baffled by this thread.

[-] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 23 points 3 months ago

I think we should come up with a term for the kind of people to whom the color of a person's skin is this important.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Do you think there might be a reason their skin color is relevant under the Trump administration?

Edit: Interestingly, your post history shows that you are very interested in skin color yourself.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

I didn't see anything too egregious in their post history to get worked up over. Some downvotable opinions, sure (in America, a lifted truck is almost guaranteed to be indicative of racism, or at least republicanism.) but not really anything to be mad about.

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[-] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 10 points 3 months ago

Interestingly, your post history shows that you are very interested in skin color yourself.

Feel free to dig thru it and post it here for everyone to see.

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[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

It's not about their skin color to me. It's more about a likeliness that they're not a Republican. Yes, I know, there are black Republicans, but it's less likely.

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[-] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

So no asian farms, no spanish farms, no middle eastern farms?

Why just black farms? Doesn't this lend itself to the trope of black people being farmhands?

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 3 months ago

Black farmers in the US have a particular history, what with chattel slavery and independent black farmers in particular being targeted for hostile takeovers and anti-competitive behavior from racists running big AG conglomerates in ways that other ethnic and cultural groups in the US have not faced.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

We must stay divided or we might notice that we’re losing the class war.

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[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 13 points 3 months ago

Thanks so much for this! I don't mind scrolling and clicking either.

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[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Well, only 2 within reasonable distance. One only sells microgreen kits. The other appears to be a supplier for restaurants, etc.

I zipped them an email to ask about private sales. But, definitely nothing on their website about sales and shipping to the public.

[-] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Region 5; Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin. Why are Ohio and Wisconsin grouped with the same link?

https://blackfarmersindex.com/region-5-wisconsin-%2B-ohio

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[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 months ago

Thank you! I did not know that. Last news that I heard about black farmers was about then getting screwed by massive ag conglomerates.

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