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[-] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 21 points 1 day ago

I think we should come up with a term for the kind of people to whom the color of a person's skin is this important.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Do you think there might be a reason their skin color is relevant under the Trump administration?

Edit: Interestingly, your post history shows that you are very interested in skin color yourself.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I didn't see anything too egregious in their post history to get worked up over. Some downvotable opinions, sure (in America, a lifted truck is almost guaranteed to be indicative of racism, or at least republicanism.) but not really anything to be mad about.

[-] Dashi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I only went back 5 days, maybe that's a limitation for my mobile app, but yeah I also couldn't find cause to say they can't stop talking about race.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I'm not worked up over anything. I'm just noting that they bring up the subject of race multiple times in the couple of pages of their history I looked at.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's a big subject at the moment. Palestinians v Israel, China v uyghurs, trump v everybody, it's not unreasonable to mention these things in context. According to their posts, it seems they're from Finland. I've never been, and don't pretend to know a whole lot about Finland other than their war with Russia and simo hayha (due to my US army background) but I would be surprised if I found out that Finland had an issue with race, honestly. So does talking about race during a time when race is a big world issue automatically make them racist? No, it's a discussion topic, and they never said anything racist. Don't press that button unnecessarily, or it becomes meaningless.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I never called anyone a racist. In fact, I was the one being called a racist for posting this in the first place.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Ehhhh you did go through their post history looking for something to be mad about because you disagreed with something they said. Neither of you have said anything racist. We need to remember who the bad people really are, those who do, or wish harm on others. Let's try consolidating instead of separating.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Again, I never called anyone a racist.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

No, you didn't, but you definitely implied it.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Okay, well you clearly know what I meant better than I do, so I'll defer to the Flying Squid expert here.

[-] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago

Interestingly, your post history shows that you are very interested in skin color yourself.

Feel free to dig thru it and post it here for everyone to see.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

That sounds like a silly thing to do when it's publicly available... and notable how often you want to talk about race.

[-] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'll save them the trouble then and out myself here by posting the only other mention of skin color on my entire post history. Clearly I can't stop talking about race.

Concluding that someone is a lesser human because of their skin color seems just as illogical to me as calling someone a racist because they drive a lifted truck. These things are completely unrelated.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Who here is concluding that? Can you please present anyone here concluding that?

[-] Nelots@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

They're saying that quote is the only other instance of them talking about skin color in their post history, not that it's relevant to this thread or the people in it.

[-] junkthief 8 points 1 day ago

I think you are conflating where the “importance” has come from. A person can recognize that skin color does not matter. They can also recognize that the system they live in places a huge importance on skin color through endemic systems that have been in place for decades. How do you counteract an unbalanced system? By sticking your fingers in your ears and going “it doesn’t matter” or by seeking out those who are trying to make a change?

Unfortunately, for some folks it’s never enough. Why only black folks? Why not disabled folks? Why not indigenous folks? Etc. But you have to start somewhere - and many people aren’t even trying. My point is that projects like this are a start. They’re not going to solve every issue but they’re trying to make a difference and I think that’s neat.

[-] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't agree with "sticking fingers in my ears and saying it doesn't matter" being a fair representation of what I'm trying to say here.

I would claim that in the case of person's skin color we truly shouldn't care about it any more than we care about the color of their hair or eyes. It's it’s a description of appearance, not a reflection of who they are. If we want to live in a world where this is the case, then my argument is that paying more attention to it is not the way to go. I'm sure the people behind this have good intentions but it's the method I disagree with here.

[-] junkthief 3 points 1 day ago

I apologize for implying that.

You’re right that we shouldn’t care, but how do we help those who have been disenfranchised if we don’t identify them? Advocacy isn’t about caring about appearance over character, it’s is about shining a light on systematically disenfranchised groups of people so that we can support them.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Despite what the Fascists would erase from history and science, critical race theory is like the theory of gravity, it's absolutely correct and all around us.

African Americans have never been made whole since their ancestors were brought here as slaves. They've never been the primary or equal beneficiaries of the generational windfalls that have occurred here. They've been sabotaged at every step. Ever heard of Tulsa?

It's ridiculous how many people shriek get over it when Jim Crow is still well in living memory. When African American families get substantial reparations for what was done to their families over and over generationally, so never, then you'd have a leg to stand on.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

It's not about their skin color to me. It's more about a likeliness that they're not a Republican. Yes, I know, there are black Republicans, but it's less likely.

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

There is greater demonstration of community among non white people. As such, theres a built in hook not just for saying hello to a stranger, but for coming together to organize something like this. I think that’s more likely where it’s coming from than what you’re thinking.

Either way, I’d like a better veggie source for the things we don’t grow ourselves.

[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

5 day old account and you're posting like crazy all over the place.

Now where have I seen that type of behaviour before...

[-] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 1 points 12 hours ago

I didn't know that averaging 10 messages per day is considered "posting like crazy"

Lets hear your theory then about what that means.

[-] benderfend@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Anti-white nationalists? Or anti-MAGAts?

Just spitballin here...

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