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The art of the deal (lemmy.world)
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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 22 points 14 hours ago

Funny story.

When Trump 'wrote' his book "The Art Of The Deal" he gave his ghost writer full cover credit and half the profits. The writer has never stopped talking about how stupid Trump is.

[-] MangoCats@feddit.it 12 points 16 hours ago

My question: was the whole Canada / Mexico thing just a smoke screen for the newly increased China tariffs?

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

At 10%? I don't think so.

[-] pseudonaut@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago

Real question here… I keep seeing people say this, but what are the concessions that Canada and Mexico “gave” that they were already doing? I couldn’t find anyone mention it in the post.

[-] merari42@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago

Basically appointing an investigator for fentanyl smuggling for Canada and sending troops to the northern border for Mexico.

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

We already have a cZaR in the ministry. The whole thing is laughable if not terrifying.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago

#doloytsarizm! Aurora gave her command.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 92 points 1 day ago

I had to do a double-take on the fact that Trump's approval rating has been steadily improving since the beginning of January. Jesus fuck people are ignorant. I guess I shouldn't be surprised with the wealth inequality, the media consolidation, the education standards the way they are...

[-] douz0a0bouz@midwest.social 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

You have to stop and think, where are they getting the data? I'm not even sure if you call it confirmation bias, or journalists with guns to their heads.

[-] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

Whenever I think "man, the people around me can't be that stupid right?" Then I get in my car and drive around for about 15 minutes and realize that yes in fact they are that stupid.

[-] MangoCats@feddit.it 6 points 16 hours ago

I think that's all about who's doing the polling and how they are doing it: https://abcnews.go.com/538/trump-approval-polling-average-works/story?id=117999010

[-] Spezi@feddit.org 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Thats what happens when the average joe gets his news from Xitter or Fox News. They get rid of all critical thinking skills for the sake of owning the libs and freeze peach.

Trump could literally burn down their studio and Fox news would still spin it like “The democrats would have done even worse”

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I had a conservative admit they receive the the bulk of their news from Twitter, and Tim Pool. But simultaneously exclaims without evidence that AP/Reuters are not to be trusted. JFC.

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Trump said he was going to raise the price of Canadian and Mexican things by 25%, then he didn't do that.

Wouldn't that improve your opinion of him?

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 day ago

The fact that his approval rating still exists after that first term shows that he can do whatever he wants and his followers will still support him. It's a cult, nothing will change that.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago

The best ratings you can buy!

[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Approval ratings tend to go up as people fear to speak against their oppressor.

[-] Rajtinka@lemmy.world 106 points 1 day ago

I also believe this is all just peacocking and him and all his billionaire buddies and the ultra rich corporations all got to use the VERY predictable stock market changes to get even richer. Of course he doesn't care if the tariffs hurt anyone. He is busy making the 1% money so they don't starve or go without healthcare or education. Didn't you hear? Republican is the new working class party. Just ask all the government employees that Muskrat just fired ....

[-] aleq@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago

As an onlooker from Europe eagerly awaiting the fall of the US, this is disappointing. :( But congrats to the people of these three countries I guess.

At least US is still shooting itself in the foot with the China tariffs.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 114 points 1 day ago

I mean, he still manage to bring the very divided Canada together. Most people around me cancelled every US based subscription services they had, and people will pay attention not to buy americans products. The world needs to come together to bring this undereductaed and dangerous country down.

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago

As an American living in America. Trumps actions make me not want to buy anything American either.

[-] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

Dont worry its nearly impossible anyway since they sent all the manufacturing jobs to China, or mexico, or Taiwan, or anywhere else but here

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

As a (current) American citizen, I agree, bring it down.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I hate that this clown has turned me into an accelerationist, but at this point what do we have left? Our society and even our species has shown how hopeless our situation is, the ONLY way forward from here is if the numb and dumb start experiencing consequences for making terrible choices in leadership.

To this end, I want to see it all burn. Not because I hate anyone, but because I think we can do a lot better as a species if we held consistent values and didn't get led astray by literally anyone who can weave an entertaining story. Our parents were supposed to teach us the value of thought and reason and the risks of making bad choices, but then we all got on the internet and learned that no matter how wrong we are, no matter how backwards our thinking or decisions, there will be some group that supports you wholeheartedly and without nuance.

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[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Once the US falls, most if not all of Europe will follow, I'm afraid. The world is a very entangled thing nowadays.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

It's more of a low hanging fruit thing right now. The tarrifs will happen. There was pushback so they backed down while they continue to field dress the United States government. They will circle back around.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Idk, I kind of love the China tariffs.

Oh wait, you meant the tariffs we're putting on China, not the China tariffs they're putting on US oil and coal.

But really I'm happy with any taxes on oil and coal.

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[-] Zoots@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Yeah but he still frames it as a win. That's the problem. Loose goals so he can frame anything as a win and his supporters don't think twice (or once for that matter)

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

Trump is such a coward. He can't commit to anything he says. I thought actually implementing the tariffs was the goal? What about that whole schtick on eliminating income taxes with tariff revenue? Do people just dream big on Trump's pie-in-the-sky fantasies, get on board, and then get brought back down to reality and conveniently forget all that big talk only to still have the audacity to call it a fucking W? The threat of the tariffs accomplished nothing. Trump is incompetent beyond belief.

Trump has loudly announced his presence on the world stage and made sure nobody can ignore him. Starting with high or ridiculous demands is his way of getting concessions.

We don’t know what negotiations are taking place behind closed doors.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Trump has loudly announced his presence on the world stage and made sure nobody can ignore him.

Sure they can. China already is. The last time Trump tried to hit China with tariffs, they retaliated and then the Trump administration bailed out the farmers by giving $60 billion in welfare to red states to offset the cost of his failed trade war. Why would they do anything different this time?

Starting with high or ridiculous demands is his way of getting concessions.

What concessions?

No, seriously, answer the question.

The "concession" that he got from Trudeau was already an agreement that Canada had made under the Biden administration.

The "concession" that he got from Sheinbaum for sending 10k troops to the southern border was something that Mexico regularly agrees to do - it happened during Biden's term and also during Trump's first term. Evidently, all you have to do is ask politely.

So far, neither country has conceded anything that they haven't already previously agreed to or have historically been willing to do without threats of economic sanctions or tariffs.

We don’t know what negotiations are taking place behind closed doors.

Then if we don't know what he actually negotiated for, how can he or anyone else for that matter claim it was effective? We have no evidence that he's getting anything more than what was already promised to him for backing down.

You can stop simping for Trump now, he's not going to call you back.

Trump has loudly announced his presence on the world stage and made sure nobody can ignore him. Starting with high or ridiculous demands is his way of getting concessions.

We don’t know what negotiations are taking place behind closed doors.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

They have replaced their god with trump. Trump did it therefore it was good. Trump criticised it therefore it was bad. You're asking them to retain information and think logically and critically about it instead of cheering on their lying and very false god. All the statistics say that support for right wingers drops off heavily the more education you have. His supporters aren't the smart cookies. They like what he says and they like how he says it and he never tells them they're stupid. They're not fact checking him, that's what libs do. They're not libs, they're red blooded Americans. Trump can absolutely do no wrong in their eyes.

[-] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 2 points 11 hours ago

This is the real TDS.

[-] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Good work trump. The world respects America again. /s

[-] TBi@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately to his fans it looks like he won! Which probably means more tariffs going forward.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

I do not think so. Even Fox news was calling him out for raising prices on ... checks notes ... almost everything. He didn't win on this, even to them.

At best he broke even. And there are other bribery / corruption cards for him to play using tariffs.

[-] roofTophopper@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I dunno, I've read a lot of comments and poked my head into a certain sub reddit and folks are celebrating as if these are the deals of the century. They've got him held high as some no bs deal maker. Makes you gag a bit reading through them.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yah, I think we'll start making progress again in this country when we all realize that most people don't care about facts, they just want stories.

Donald Trump's power has nothing to do with anything other than his flagrant disregard for reality and his chronic disorder that makes him just launch into stories about anything and everything. And not just stories, they're always ridiculous stories like you would tell children. This works because most people are again, children who want stories.

While Trump and his ilk have woven these epic stories of good versus evil and how rotten the enemies are and how great the good guys are, the left and the dems have been trying to quadruple down on being "civil" and producing charts and graphs and data to back their arguments. I get it, I used to think reality mattered to other people, but now I get it, that for the vast majority of humans, nobody really thinks.

I don't mean that as an "I'm smarter than everyone" statement, but a discovery about a fundamental quality of the human experience, which is people only think they think. What actually goes on for all of us, all day long, is we feel a thing, experience a sensation or emotion, and our brain writes a story to explain it. You believe this story because you tend to never doubt what you come up with in your head, but your brain doesn't naturally default to facts and logic, just ways to connect feelings and experiences. This is intrinsic to how our minds work and it's what let us survive ice ages and predators and apocalypses of ancient times. But in a modern, complex world with language and politics and technology, it just makes us more confused and wrong, which is why people tend to cling to people who can successfully create a narrative that weaves everything together in some sensible way. Not actually sensible, it just has to "feel" right and the brain will accept it even if you don't agree with the person telling the story. This is why there are so many people and institutions that suddenly feel like they've turned "pro trump" it's because we're monkeys and we follow our leader, especially when they can make enough of us follow a storyline.

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[-] Gigliorananomicom@sh.itjust.works 59 points 2 days ago

Ignorant perspective. They basically pumped and dumped, but in reverse, and everyone thinks they're the stupid ones.

This is exactly how we got here. Please stop.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago
[-] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago

Stocks. They are manipulating the media so they can sell high and buy low. Rinse and repeat.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 54 points 1 day ago

Trump shrugged off the market reaction on Monday, suggesting to the reporters in the Oval Office that he wasn’t aware of the volatility. “I don’t know. I don’t think about it,” he said.

Based on his reaction, yes it was completely about stocks. When the hell does he ever act like he is unaware of something

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

When he's done something shady and suddenly "doesn't recall" every little detail about it while being questioned. Why isn't this evil fuck in prison?!

[-] djsoren19 18 points 1 day ago

God, imagine if he was telling the truth. The president of the United States doesn't pay any attention or heed to the financial markets? It's just as ludicrous a position!

[-] Sceptique@leminal.space 19 points 1 day ago

Nah, conservative and liars always use the "i don't know" "i don't remember" "it's not me" cards. It's always a lie, they know, they remember, they are responsible.

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