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[-] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

Since when does the CDC have the authority to do this in the first place? If the CDC can't effectively police actions during a global pandemic they sure as shit shouldn't have to authority to control the terminology used in medical research.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 2 days ago

Maybe research that used CDC funds?

[-] commander@lemmings.world 2 points 2 days ago

Scientists are going to have to start living more modest lifestyles if they want to appreciate science more than wealth.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago
[-] commander@lemmings.world 1 points 13 hours ago
[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Scientists aren't wealthy to begin with. The only people pushing that idea is the anti intellectual conspiracy theorists you're listening too.

[-] commander@lemmings.world 7 points 2 days ago

Crazy how polticized science is.

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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 87 points 3 days ago

The first books the Nazis burned were scientific research notes about trans people.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The first books the Nazis burned were scientific research notes about trans people

Impressive that it is actually true, I thought it is an exaggeration. From Wikipedia:

On 30 January 1933, Adolf Hitler, the leader of the Nazi Party, came to power

On 6 May 1933, a group of students ... the students proceeded to shout "Brenne Hirschfeld!" ("Burn Hirschfeld!") while ransacking and vandalizing the Institute, tearing pictures from the walls, pouring inkwells onto carpets, and destroying exhibitions while the band played outside.

src: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_people_in_Nazi_Germany

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 days ago

Yeah, when they teach about book burnings they never mention that fact. It also serves as a reminder that trans people are not just a modern phenomenon. The Nazis' reasons for targeting trans people then are the same as right-wingers today, they look for a small, marginalized group and seize on existing prejudice to sow division and divide and conquer. The Nazis claimed trans people were a Jewish plot to weaken and destroy the Ayran race, and you can still see echos of that in some right-wing rhetoric today.

[-] lembas@lemm.ee 275 points 3 days ago

I'm so fucking scared. They've inhibited our movement by fucking with passports, they've defined us as dishonest and dishonorable in the EO kick us out of the military, they've codified the notion that our gender identity constitutes sexual deviance and poses a threat to children, they've attacked proven life-saving care, with a focus on children and an impact on adults.

and now they're trying to book-burn us out of existence.

this is systematic dehumanization, the track record of which is grim.

There's just straight up not enough of us to do this on our own.

If people don't start standing up for us, we're fucked.

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[-] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 148 points 3 days ago

Look at all this cancel culture….

[-] Tin 75 points 3 days ago

“forbidden terms”

...must be that "free speech" I keep hearing about. This is obviously a first amendment issue, right?

Right?

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

to be fair you've been hearing about it from this troglodyte:

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[-] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Well now how will I explain that a pregnant dominant species member is not a Martian

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 148 points 3 days ago

Literally speedrunning the Nazi handbook.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 63 points 3 days ago
[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 75 points 3 days ago

So much money wasted modifying all these documents.

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[-] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 156 points 4 days ago
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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 91 points 3 days ago
[-] frank@sopuli.xyz 23 points 3 days ago

What's the opposite of eating the onion? That happened to me just now too

[-] superkret@feddit.org 21 points 3 days ago

Drinking the swamp

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[-] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 44 points 3 days ago

This is... This is bad! Wow.

[-] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago

Don't they know just because you've banned a word, doesn't mean that the item or thing automatically poofs out of existence?

This is that easy. There's a few words I'd love to ban. How about Elmo? And Turd

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago

This is a 21st century version of book burning.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

This is Project 2025 in action.

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago

It makes it harder to pursue science when you cannot use the terns others in ypur field use.

[-] prole 29 points 3 days ago

Unfortunately, this kind of control of language does work in the long term.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Wiping trans people from existence is easier for them to do when nobody is allowed to talk about them.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

It's just the first step. You don't acknowledge they exist on paper or in speech. That makes it much easier to turn against them physically. It's still up in the air whether or not they take the final steps of making their existence illegal. I think they will.

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[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 108 points 3 days ago

Back up everything. Don't let it be memory-holed! Holy crap.

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 33 points 3 days ago

This needs more upvotes. Granted, the time to back up everything was when project 2025 hit the internet last year.

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[-] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 80 points 3 days ago

Oh look...

The US is embedding a totalitarian theonomic government. A new, (soon to be) militarized, hierarchy regime of religious fanaticism and newly created social classes, in which DEI is being brutally subjugated.

I swear I've seen this show before...

And just like that sci-hub will be even more useful

[-] uranibaba@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago

There is also annas-archive.

[-] Stormdancer@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

What the actual fuck?! It's like living in a fever-driven nightmare. We can only hope there are backups of the un-purged documents.

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 18 points 3 days ago

The CDC has instructed its scientists to retract or pause the publication of any research manuscript being considered by any medical or scientific journal, not merely its own internal periodicals

The scope is thankfully limited only to CDC scientists.

Not that this makes it good news by any stretch.

This is going to push research money squarely under the thumb of corporate control, which is of course the aim here. Privatize everything.

I do know scientists hate having their work paywalled or censored so I’d expect sci-hub to get a lot more popular real quick, but many will definitely self censor their official publications to keep their jobs til orange hitler shoots himself in a bunker somewhere.

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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 27 points 3 days ago

This is pretty dumb even by trump standards. You would think the right of all people would know that trying to ban terms will just result in new euphemisms and jargon being created.

Most of the research caught up is probably going to be using the terms incidentally (for instance, a drug study that happens to mention participants were AMAB) and this will cause a bunch of paperwork and probably just end up being changed to something like "gametically" or "chromosomally".

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[-] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Following the manual to the letter

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