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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/30934764

The “privacy-first” company surprised its user base when CEO Andy Yen lauded Trump on social media.

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[-] cupcakezealot 32 points 1 day ago

The fact that a privacy company based in a non five eyes country is even praising a government - especially one like the US - is a red flag.

Nevermind the fact that they claim Republicans are anti big tech while being surrounded by tech CEOs...

[-] menemen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] Godort@lemm.ee 163 points 2 days ago

"We're not liberal or conservative, we're a secret third thing!(conservative)"

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago

They're swiss.

We have more parties in our equivalent of the presidential office than you have parties in total.

I have huge problems with this notion that you have to be either democrat or conservative. They don't even cover 50% of the opinions I, a green-liberal (actual liberal, not US-definition), hold.

You're absolutely able and allowed to have your own opinion different from what any party official says.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 59 points 2 days ago

When commenting on US politics, they should be aware of US political realities though. When taking position relative to US politics, they should be aware of that. At the very least, they should comment that they're progressive or something along the lines of "Our political orientation isn't represented in US politics" to acknowledge that, like you did.

But when your CEO endorses Republicans, pretending you're neutral isn't a good look.

[-] __nobodynowhere@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They were commenting on American politics though. Swiss parties are irrelevant. Supporting Trump is a crazy position no matter what your nationality is or what parties exist in that country.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes but swiss people can still be absolutely piece of shit human beings. They proved that in WWII by helping fund the Nazis directly. Swiss people also aren't immune from rampant US party propaganda. You aren't magical, psychologically different humans than the rest of the world.

Publicly supporting an openly fascist dictator, whatever "political party" they are on, someone who directly opposes the stated mission and values of the company, means that they are piece of shit humans who cannot be trusted with our data because they will just lie with what they do with it just like how they lied to us about their company values.

[-] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Saying someone is swiss isnt the defense you want it to be considering that the swiss helped harbor nazi wealth.

[-] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago
[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

We are in a thread about businesses supporting Nazis.

[-] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

That's not a counterargument lmao are you serious?

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A you tell me what you think a non-sequitur is?

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

They vote for whoever helps them get paid the most.

[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 14 points 2 days ago

Capitalist.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 105 points 2 days ago

“Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.”

I don't believe that they haven't heard of Lina Khan.

[-] lksaar@lemmy.sdf.org 51 points 2 days ago

Yes, big fan of Lina Khan, I worked with her in 2020 on the House report on antitrust (the House was controlled by Democrats back then). I've discussed this elsewhere, but certain events in 2022 made it very clear that further progress on antitrust was unlikely under Democratic leadership. You can read more about the backstory here: https://time.com/6243256/schumer-kills-antitrust-big-tech-bills/

his reddit account is pretry active if you want to read bad takes

[-] sudneo@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They did, they even worked together in the past.

See https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/m7psmzx/

Quote for those who don't want to reddit.

Yes, big fan of Lina Khan, I worked with her in 2020 on the House report on antitrust (the House was controlled by Democrats back then). I've discussed this elsewhere, but certain events in 2022 made it very clear that further progress on antitrust was unlikely under Democratic leadership. You can read more about the backstory here: https://time.com/6243256/schumer-kills-antitrust-big-tech-bills/

Edit: I see someone else already posted it. I will leave it here even if it's a duplicate for future self-shame.

[-] cupcakezealot 3 points 1 day ago

I'm sure Elon Mush will get rid on that, though.

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[-] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 64 points 2 days ago

This is what a kleptocratic oligarchy looks like folks. Suck up to the big man and he'll let you fleece the joint.

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is not an ad
Enter email to receive emails

I disagree, Mr Website.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I believe them. They’ll praise whomever is in power. Neutral opportunists.

[-] cupcakezealot 5 points 1 day ago

That's not a good thing though.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Correct. It’s bad, whether the Dems or the GOP are in power. It’s not suddenly bad now.

[-] DigDoug@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've been looking in to degoogling and was considering Protonmail before this. Does anybody know of a good alternative? Espeically one that lets you have multiple email addresses?

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

I bit the bullet this month & bought a domain so I can assign mail handling and change providers without changing my email address. Currently using https://purelymail.com/ because they're $10/year for as many addresses & domains as you want "within reason." It's apparently just one guy with some AWS instances, but it was very straightforward to set up.

[-] philnc@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 days ago

I was dumb enough to walk away from that approach about 10 years ago. Ugh. But you've convinced me. The annual cost of a domain is lunch money for a week. The freedom it provides in this scenario is well worth it.

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

There's a lot of domains you can get for the price of a single coffee, if you don't insist on it being cute, readable, or one of the legacy TLDs. Between purelymail and a .top domain, it's $15/year.

[-] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

+1 for purelymail.

I've had my personal domain on gmail and most recently proton. Proton got too pricy when I wanted to add another couple of domains. After some research I landed on purelymail, and it's been smooth sailing to set up and use.

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[-] MangoPenguin 6 points 1 day ago

Mailbox.org

[-] Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

If you only care about email (and calendar, I guess) Tuta is a pretty good choice. I've been using it for years and had only one problem very early on. Additional aliases are only available with the paid plan (€3 a month) however, same as Proton I believe.

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[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I have pretty good experience with Tutanota an bitwarden as the most direct alternatives

Tutanota apps lack a bit of polish but the UI looks reasonably nice and gets the job done. Bitwarden has treated me pretty well.

[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 9 points 2 days ago

I have tuta, bitwarden, firefox relay, and libreoffice, seems to work decently. I am also considering getting a mullvald vpn, but not sure how well it works with torrenting, since they no longer support port-forward.

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[-] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

It's not the most practical thing in the universe, but I have a small VPS that I host my email on for myself and a couple others (5 addresses in total). It's a bit of a pain to set up, but once it's working, it is really nice to have that kind of control.

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[-] biofaust@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I may be too Roman, but I will never trust a Swiss.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Capitalism -> Fascism

[-] othermark@lemm.ee 22 points 2 days ago

Eww I stepped in shit

[-] ReCursing@lemmings.world 26 points 2 days ago
[-] themadcodger@kbin.earth 15 points 2 days ago

Yeah, my two year contact just renewed with them before this happened. fml

[-] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You can get a refund within 30 of an auto-renewal. That's what I did too.

[-] themadcodger@kbin.earth 3 points 1 day ago

Whaaaaa? For reals? It didn't let me automatically, so I assume you had to contact them?

[-] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 2 points 1 day ago

You have to contact them about the refund, it's not automatic.

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