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[-] bamboo 152 points 5 days ago

People who sat out on voting for Kamela over the Biden handling of Gaza voted for this.

[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago

They never gave a shit about Palestine. It was just another example of "The Issue" for them to base their entire personality around to pose online.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 49 points 5 days ago

I'm married to a Palestinian and so I'm hyper-aware about lip service, and I think you're right. My perception is that they are weak-minded people too naive or stupid to realize they've been conned into sitting out the election by a right-wing psyop. And they also have this mentality that a candidate has to be perfect in every way (by their standards) or they won't sully their purity by voting for them. They're the same sort of people who shop at Whole Foods because anything less than perfect should never pass their lips, and don't notice or care that it's just funnelling their money to Bezos.

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Hmm... not sure if its just those people who swayed the election. I think you are overestimating just how little the average American care about brown kids dying in the middle east.

If you look at the inflation, its correlated with Biden's presidency, but voters don't understand the idea of

Correlation =/= Causation

They forgot the whole Covid thing caused it, it was trump fucking up covid that exacerbaed the inflation.

And voters immediately thought its Biden's fault, so those who voted democratic in 2020, decided to not vote because "prices didn't go down so why bother voting"

[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

No, the problem is that Democrats were saying "Old Man Bad."

Then when he stepped aside and Harris was the only other option because there was no time for a primary, Dems largely said "No, Black Woman Worse! Hey, How about we vote for the even older white guy instead? Can I have a puppy?"

And when they didn't get a puppy, they pulled a temper tantrum and stayed home.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

No it wasn't racial. At least not at that scale on the Dem side. It's even simpler.

The candidates this round were all terrible options, from beginning to end. Trump was always going to be the Republican nominee, and Biden/Harris for the Dems. No one else was ever going to even be considered.

The Rep messaging was "shit is fucked, we'll fix it". That's a lie of course, they have no plan to actually fix anything, their plans are to make it all and help the oligarchs as usual. But their messaging at least acknowledged the issues most people were feeling.

The Dem messaging boiled down to "it's not that bad". Which is objectively correct, but not what 90% of people felt. They ignored what real people were feeling entirely, so why should they vote for a party that won't even acknowledge that fundamental issues exist?

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[-] Stern@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Old man was okay until the shit debate job then it was old man bad.

They quickswitched to black woman, which put her behind as no primary or time to build name recognition.

Then guys who worked with Hillary made them stop calling trump and co. weird or saying "we're not going back", which were both effective.

Top that off with trying to peel away R voters, muh egg prices, her refusing to say Biden did a bad job when she was on the view (she could have dodged and said she'd do better, lets be real.) and refusing Rogan entirely and you have a recipe for a bad time wrt undecideds.

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[-] MashedHobbits@lemy.lol 15 points 5 days ago

And this arrogant ignorance is why the Dems lost, and will continue to lose.

It’s a bold strategy let’s see how many votes it costs you the next time around.

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[-] maplebar@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

It was death by 1000 cuts, but let's not pretend Gaza wasn't a major contributing factor on top of a feels-over-reals vibecession due to pandemic inflation.

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[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

They're getting exactly what they voted for, but probably not what they wanted. But at least bLuE mAgA lost right guys?

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Keep blaming and crying about the voters neoliberal corporate-whorism failed to motivate!

It's worked out well for you so far...

[-] ebolapie@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Sorry the prospect of keeping a literal fascist out of the most powerful office in the world didn't get you off, I guess? Sorry you don't understand the difference between neoliberalism and fascism? Sorry you prefer fascism? I don't really understand what y'all's hangup was.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 77 points 5 days ago

As usual, dead silence from the “Democrats bad, Genocide Joe” crowd.

[-] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Not silence, just more bullshit unfortunately. I’ve seen them continue to defend their position.

Edit: In this post!

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You're still getting the same policy you wanted for Gaza. All centrists are.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago
[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Is Netanyahu committing genocide?

EDIT: The downvotes indicate that some people are feelin' seen.

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[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

It's OK, they wanted this apparently.

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[-] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 59 points 5 days ago

Every single one of you who attacked Biden and dissuaded turn out for Democrats in November need to sit the fuck down.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I live near a college town and I was seeing banners and signs like this everywhere: "Stop genocide; vote 3rd party".

Today's kids are so god damn stupid.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

"Bu-bu-but how would donvict be any worse?"

[-] Tm12@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago

where is your evidence that things would be any different if she won? Is she, or any other democratic leader speaking out against this? They lost and they’re as silent as they were prior to the election?

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Harris is not a real estate developer

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[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 71 points 5 days ago

Anyone who isn't a moron knew that would be his plan.

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

Predict? He literally said it, out loud, before now.

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[-] maplebar@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago

I hate to say "I told you so", but there it is. Nothing is in place to stop Trump and Netenyahu from going truly scorched earth on Gaza and the West Bank now.

Time to see what a real, unmitigated genocide looks like.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I'm sorry but did you think they were using kid gloves before?

[-] maplebar@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

There are an estimated 2,000,000 people in the Gaza strip.

We can continue this discussion in 4 years.

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[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 44 points 5 days ago

Who could possibly have predicted he'd do such a thing?

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

Clean it out with US supplied 155 mm artillery shells. To the Muslim MAGA voters, you got what you asked for...FAFO! Zero sympathy. The Orange Nero would like to do the same thing to Blue States.

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[-] Tm12@lemmy.ca 44 points 5 days ago
[-] wabafee@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Casually saying just kill them all, wow

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

No. The other genocide, destroying the cultural identity. The article says he wants to relocate the Palestinians to Jordan and Egypt (no matter what all they’re of those peoples think). And he’s supported by zionists who want to redevelop the Gaza Strip for Israel once the Palestinians are gone

[-] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 19 points 5 days ago

What's the opposite of a humanitarian?

[-] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

It says it right there in the first word of the title.

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

Yes. The guy who intends to "clean out" the United States as well. It really smacks of a familiar thing...can't really put my finger on it though.... certainly must have happened in the past hundred years or so...

[-] Tm12@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago

You guys are fucked for just blaming Muslims. The West does not give a shit about us, and this latest attack from Centrist libs cements it. Gaza, China, Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan, and other brown migrants in NA and EU. Get fucked Dems.

[-] Habarug@lemm.ee 16 points 5 days ago

The way he can't even say who's responsible for Gaza looking like a "demolition site".

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Genocide don and genocide bibi, right? Funny how some slogans stick and some don't.

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