Everyone involved in her arrest and detainment is a criminal.
The “disruptive protests are bad” people are straight garbage pieces of shit. You know what is disruptive? Blizzards in Florida, wildfires in California and Canada, and mass migrations of island people due to oceans rising. So go fuck yourselves with this “boo hoo traffic got held up a couple minutes “ bullshit you fucking pussies.
Well put. The same dumbfucks who decry the visual pollution of looking at windmills but don't realize actual smog is the alterntative.
I think the key is who it is disruptive to. Blocking traffic just pisses off the average person. The decision makers don't care about the average person. You gotta disrupt the decision makers. But you also have to be prepared for them to fight back hard.
We need more Luigis.
our society is rapidly producing them, it seems like there's an intent to make angrier, disaffected people even.
The average person needs to start caring too. Too many zombies out there.
Sounds great, but you might as well shout at the rain. It isn't going to happen.
This sort of defeatist take is not helping anyone either.
I'm not defeatest. I just can't stand focusing on impractical solutions instead of things that can make a difference.
You say it's impractical and I say it very much is. What now?
Vote for progressive candidates (even if they are dem) in the midterms, and advocate that others do so. That's the easy thing. Low chance of success, similar effort to claiming everyone else should care about things they don't.
Next up, run for local office. But don't campaign, just pay the application fee, put your name in, and send in a write up for the voter guide that says to support the real progressive candidates. Slightly more effort, but slightly more impact.
There are tons of small things you can do. Even donating $5 to a progressive candidate would be more effective than saying people should care.
And these disruptions can be more than just an inconvenience. People can lose their jobs for being late. They can miss medical appointments and procedures.
They kind of have a point about blocking roads being ineffective, but for entirely the wrong reason. Having been stuck in traffic caused by protests blocking streets several times myself, I know that for most of the drivers, it's utterly indistinguishable from all the other traffic jams. Unless you're right up front to see what's causing it, it could very well just be another event at the fairgrounds, or one of the regularly-scheduled crashes.
Put another way, maybe driving is actually a protest against cars? It is pretty damn effective at blocking streets.
A non-disruptive protest is masturbation.
A protest is disruption.
That's why protests in designated protest zones out of the eyelines and more importantly away from the profit operations of those being protested are an intentional and effective method of completely neutering protest.
We have protest in the US. It just doesn't mean anything anymore.
You are not masturbating correctly.
People hate protests even though they absolutely work because those people are for the status quo. I truly believe centrists are not actually on a line in between "right" and "left," but rather their own node so we all make a triangle. Much of what centrists believe are not anything like what the rest of us believe, but they are cowards who DESPERATELY want to be seen as the norm, as one of us by everyone (which is why they try to claim a "center" position, while the fascists and anti-fascists both recognize there is no middle ground between the two).
Centrism therefore should not be looked at as a mix of right and left, but as a mix of mainly centrist goals and thoughts. Teasing out centrism from the left will help us progress.
https://news.gallup.com/vault/246167/protests-seen-harming-civil-rights-movement-60s.aspx
This Kafka-esque bullshit is all intentional to scare other protesters.
Little old lady spends 20 months in prison for blocking a main road and being mad at rich people.
President of the United States, insurrectionist, creep, man who suggested he'd got a Nazi to hack the elections, certified felon, spends ZERO months in prison and gets to have a party.
This is why I smoke weed.
If she had just attacked some police officer during Jan 6. she would have been free.
Instead she disrespects Big Oil that's upholding the American core values.
/S
Guardian is british, so she should have dumped sewage or murdered a trans woman if she wanted to go free.
Some time ago a politician in my country announced they would start treating the people who protested at highways harsher. She said "people think these people are just protestors, but they're criminals"* and that they were "damaging the rule of law"*.
* Translated
Earlier on Tuesday, the College for Human Rights ruled that the right to demonstrate is "under serious pressure" due to the arrests of activists. They had called for the blockade of the important thoroughfare.
Yesilgöz does not respond to this criticism. She says that the Ministry of Justice and Security will look into it together with the Ministry of the Interior. The ministry is already looking into the right to demonstrate, about which reports have been published *2.
/* 2 They're currently looking into methods to restrict the right to demonstrate.
It's honestly really worrying how people just accept and even approve of these actions. It's not just because people are being inconvenienced, almost everyone I spoke to never noticed it themselves and that's honestly the scary part.
There are states in America where it's legal to run over protestors.
They say it's only if the driver feels threaten but already had examples of drivers getting away after either driving though people leaving or going out of their way to drive into the protests so it looks like they're just trying to get away from the protestors as they run them over
It was surreal to read about talk of extremism, social disruption and the calls for corporal punishment (by police), long jail sentences and more, all for a 5-10 minute delay caused by the A12 blockade, when the day after I was helping out at the Egmond Half Marathon there was real disruption, where people really couldn't go places with their cars... not to mention events like the Dam tot Damloop or Amsterdam Marathon that effectively put parts of our capital city on lockdown. No calls for water cannons there.
People might say "Those are not the same!" and that's true - sport events are not a constitutional right.
Or when EU farmers transformed Brussels into a warzone [1] or caused havoc and many (also fatal) accidents in Germany [2] and France [3]?
"That's different. One are terrorists and the others are fighting for you to still have food on your table".
Ok. Got it. I'll do my patriotic duty and won't buy any greenhouse produced veggies from the Netherlands anymore and start drinking German milk again.
[1] AP article about farmer protests in Brussels
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