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These words are included in the official CNN transcript too: https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/cnr/date/2025-01-19/segment/05
If there was interference Elon hired someone to do it. That man is an idiot and there's no way he engineered it. If there's interference then there are multiple parties who are aware and the more people you have who know the higher the chance for someone to leak the truth. Fingers crossed?
I doubt there was actual vote-rigging on any serious scale. But it's hilarious that Trump's syphilis-riddled brain thinks that's why he won.
Is it me, or does this seem like a deliberate gaffe to rile up the opposition.
send everyone into a tailspin over a worthless fake "gotcha!'
Back in the B43 election days there was concern over Ohio and FL voting, with GOP friendly tabulating machine owners. Since 2016, GOP complaints about election totals have made DNC say elections are perfect and awesome, even though OH and FL are no longer swing states and still have same voting software. Israel won is all that matters to the politicians, it seems.
Is he implying there was election interference? Because that's what it sounds like to me
Election interference would conservatively require thousands of people working together in secret. It us extremely unlikely Trump was able to cheat like this.
Trump won because stupid people believed he could or would bring down prices and voted for him more than they voted for Harris.
Of course he is, and there was. There's a reason bullet ballots were orders of magnitude higher than the previous elections, but only in swing states.
"Russia, if you're listening..." moment all over again
Yeah, people who win legitimately don't talk like this when their opponents aren't fighting their wins. Everything here is pretty fishy ngl
republican morons can be convinced to do anything if you first convince them that a democrat already did it, so it's fair game.
The entire time he was lying about the election being stolen, I wondered about this. Democrats were all "election integrity has never been more secure" but I was like, yeah, sure, all those vote counting machines made by private third party companies couldn't POSSIBLY be tampered with 🙄 (tell that to Bernie Sanders supporters if you want to hear a belly laugh)
drumpf himself voiced that "you won't have to vote again" and "he already has all the votes he needs" in the run-up to election day. musk was literally buying votes in swing states, and now it can be said that all the information he got while running these blatant vote-buying schemes were probably used to cast votes on behalf of people he knew weren't going to vote. This is seen in the fact that in those solid drumpf counties, the down ballot republicans didn't win.
Toward the end of the election cycle, drumpf was phoning it in so hard. Remember when he was at a townhall, took two questions, and then danced on stage for 40 minutes? Remember when his team had to beg him to get back on the campaign trail because he just inexplicably stopped? I optimistically took it for resignation because he faced prison, but it was, in fact, because he already knew the outcome.
Now democrats have put themselves in a mess, because they touted election security like it was some ancient indecipherable machine that couldn't possibly be interfered with, until now??
So the guy that would have gone to prison for attempting to tamper with election results, gets onstage after barely winning an election, and says "gee, my faithful cock holster sure did a great job tampering with these election results."
So now what, immediate impeachment, that then fails? Do we wait till after the midterms to impeach? Or will they tamper with more election results to finally and forever usher in their fascist oligarchy?
WHAT A FUCKING JOKE
I loved it when my english teacher gave us a paper to read and it was about how the us couldnt turn into a dictatorship because of "checks and balances". It compared the us to hungary which is funny because in hungary orbán had to be elected before he could change the constitution while trump changed it before he was even elected 💀(i know technically its a reinterpretation but basically the same).
Orban's allies bought up the media that opposed him before the elections. Something like that could never happen in the USA.../s
I remember someone pointing out that the American constitution was the basis for a lot of other countries that were founded in the 1800s following the Enlightenment.
They all fell into a dictatorship.
If anything, the U.S. government is almost impressive. It's so inefficient, it even collapses slower than it's peers.
The checks and balances are in theory dependent on the legislative and judicial branches being independent from the executive, but in practice they really aren’t. A republican house and senate and a conservative majority in the supreme court means the checks and balances by choice won’t be checking and balancing.
I remember my highschool history teacher warned us that all governments eventually become oligarchies.
I dont know if this is true but the rumor is the data resembles vote switch that putin does with machines
I know SCOTUS would've ignored the claim but they still should've done a recount just so we could have had more information.
Paying people to vote for him isn't a skill with voting machines, but he's close.
It will be really funny a couple of years from now when the dementia gets really obvious and everyone keeps pretending the emperor has clothes on and isn't rubbing shit on the German PM's face.
Then the worst people on the planet will talk about what an alpha chad move that was.
On one hand, I don't think Elon could actually "hack" a voting machine.
On the other, he did basically just pay people to vote for ~~him~~ trump, so maybe he had other, more heavy handed methods...
A month ago or there abouts, someone posted the statistical breakdown of voting in the last election to Reddit. In the swing states (only the swing states) there was a larger than normal number of ballots where the only thing voted on was the presidential election (Ie not senate or local things). He proposed that Elon had used data from his lottery to select people who he thought were in it for the money and wouldn't actually vote and voted on their behalf. He made quite a compelling argument.
I remember reading about that too, but it seems kind of contrived for two reasons.
First of all, we all know it's very easy to lie with statistics. Even if the statistics did seem damning (which is debatable when I read it), that could be from manipulation.
Second, the scheme described would fall apart completely with even a SINGLE recount in ONE swing state. Even just a county wide recount would make the whole house of cards fall apart.
The fact that the current administration has done nothing about this, despite access to some of the best data, analysts, and intelligence in the world, seems to imply that it is most likely not true.
I would not trust the Biden administration to act in the people's best interests on this matter, it's entirely possible that any scrutiny on the 2024 election got handwaived due to Democrats not wanting to look like Trump-esque sore losers.
The fact that the current administration has done nothing about this, despite access to some of the best data, analysts, and intelligence in the world, seems to imply that it is most likely not true.
Yeah, entrenched democrats in power couldn't possibly be feckless idiots 🙄
I would agree that it seems unlikely, you know, if he didn't admit it publicly.
What he is saying there really isn't an admission on bitter fraud
On the last point there is a precedent to not bother when the Supreme Court is stacked against you, and the Supreme Court of 2000 was outright balanced compared to the kook show of today
When George w won Florida under fairly suspect terms in 2000 gore pushed it a bit and probably should’ve pushed it more. The recount was sketch as fuck, the margin was literally like 500 votes for the entire state, it was later found that a bunch of counties never actually did the recount, George’s brother was the governor, his cousin at Fox News made the first call that Florida and the election went to him, just a lot of fuckery all around. And there was a lot more to it than that but that’s the stuff they couldn’t bring up in court for various reasons.
Gore pushed back and went to the Supreme Court with it and lost.
So say there was strong evidence beyond major statistical anomalies. Do you think the stacked court system isn’t going to do everything possible to shoot down anything possible to actually litigating it? The democrats are well aware the only chance they would possibly have is if they literally had the most airtight evidence known to man of fraud, like elon himself admitting fraud with all the receipts to back it up, and even then they’d probably hit some kind of roadblock
Anyway I think what people are referring to is this letter about bullet ballots:
https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941
It’s an interesting point that is unverifiable and could only be investigated by the current admin but see above. Given they only have about 5 hours left and frankly trump has been acting as president since he was elected anyway I don’t think it would matter even if the above was moot
I will say that I think the discourse around the 2000 elections is generally very flawed. The SC ruled that you cannot do recounts only of select counties, which is a ruling that is actually pretty fair and reasonable. Furthermore, Florida later did a full recount and Bush won the state.
So like fine, you have to review the whole state? Fine. But then address the other nonsense too. Address that tens of thousands of paper ballots were incompatible with machine counting and somehow had to be discarded even though they were easily human verifiable. Explain why these ballots were 3x more likely to be discarded in precincts that had a black majority.
Explain why NORC reviewed the ballots that voting machines rejected from the entire state and found it would’ve resulted in a gore win, albeit a very thin one
At least Biden can feel good because he did his best /s
That was complete bullshit. The numbers didn't check out. The "only swing state" thing wasn't true and it was pretty easy to verify.
If he didn't just admit it publicly id agree that it is far fetched.
Poor Barron - I thought he was the best with the cyber.
Remember how every accusation was a confession.
Remember how they wouldn't shut the fuck up about voter fraud, illegals voting, machine tampering.
Notice that suddenly all those problems went away.
Thanks to everyone who called me a lunatic for suggesting this might have been rigged through ballot stuffing
Americans, especially liberals, have a phobia of calling out mass cheating by authority figures.
It’s like they need law and order so much, they are willing to ignore what is obvious. When a subject is taboo it’s not talked about , not dismissed, not encouraged
If exit polls don’t work in your state, and there is no physical ballot counting. And when tests on precinct numbers show strong suggestion of altering votes and the democrats always always underperform, it’s obviously a new phenomena, totally ok. Let’s just stop predicting elections early based on exit polls!
One such test post election for any state:
Arrange all precincts in the state by population and see if there a curve on the more people there are there, the more percentage of votes a particular candidate gets: if it’s only that candidate and it’s a smooth curve upwards that’s unnatural: California has no such correlation but some other states fail.
One should see a random looking up or down plot, or a straight line, or sorta straight. Not a growth curve. That’s because common tactic world wide to alter computer votes is to ads the extra votes based on precinct size.
Usually each state has easy to get data this way to one’s own source if amusement and the dozens of others who are thinking this might be interesting. Occasionally someone publishes graphs of it to thunderous uncaring.
It’s not the only problem but it’s the easiest way for non computer people to understand there is more to this
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