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The way that's worded implies that the only way it can hurt Windows is if Windows sucks. Subtle and true. Do better Microsoft. Or don't. We don't care, we're just doing our own thing.
good experience on Windows
Windows 7 was the last time I had that experience lol
98 Good
ME Bad
XP Good
Vista Bad
7 Good
8 Bad
10 Good
11 Bad
Let me know when 12 is out I guess...
Remember when windows said 10 would be the last version of windows, and they’d just keep sending updates from then on? That lie didn’t last long…
And they’re EoLing it this coming October! Can’t they wait until 12 at least to do that? I can’t remember the last time the end of life came before two versions had gone by. Wtf!
They’re desperate to get people on to 11.
Pepperidge farm remembers
Windows 365 is next
Ohhh, I can't wait to pay a sub for my OS... that I will have no control over
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Can't ignore 2000! That was one of the best!
As a computer os, it was great. Using it to play games not so much. I had quite a few that wouldn't work with 2000.
Windows 11 is to Windows 10 what XP was to 2000. Stop it.
Not a perfect analogy, but it fits. 11 is literally 10 with a higher build number and a different shell. The same relation exists between 2000 and XP.
The problem is that the shell is what people interact with, and what they equate “Windows” with. Which is understandable and to some extent even correct.
I also think there’s a fair amount of memory bias. People complained about every new Windows version.
Dunno bout 10 being good though. I can only stand it cuz i have Classic Shell
10 is tolerable at best. Still get annoying notifications about shit I haven't asked for and nag screens about how my PC isn't compatible with 11 and what I need to do to update. Also the settings menu is dogshit compared to 7.
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I was saying death to Windows.
Killing windows would just be a little happy accident
Windows feels like a bit of a sinking ship. Not entirely, and it's slow, but the feeling is present and consistent. I don't want to keep having to rip apart the OS to remove shit they shoved onto my hardware without my consent. I just want an easyish experience that I can do my shit on, and they aren't really interested in that it feels.
In comparison to that, alternatives like steam os sounds great to your average user.
SteamOS is about Valve not paying Microsoft a license fee. It's not some egalitarian move by them but a cost saving. From a game dev's perspective it's additional cost and effort to port a game, or hope it runs under emulation with Proton.
I am surprised they haven't used it for cloud gaming yet since that's where the real cost savings kick in but I bet they're still saving on each Steam Deck they sell without Windows on it.
I need Windows to die because I'm tired of having to use it just to get proper HDR and Nvidia support. Or at the very least, AMD GPUs need to get better.
It's not about killing windows… but if it were to have an accident, y'know… I'm just sayin'…
I've finally banished Windows to a virtual machine, and am gearing up to fistfight Easy: ~~Anti-cheat~~ Rootkit AKA Fucking piece of shit that does precisely fuck-all to stop cheating despite having access to kernel space in order to get Sea of Thieves working on my virtual machine.
Lemme know if you figure out how to get that working
Update: It's now working.
Oh nice, congrats! Could you share info about it? That's been my biggest barrier to dropping Windows as a gamer with many games that I enjoy using root access anti cheats.
I followed a tutorial meant to bypass Easy: Anticheat for VRchat. I manually defined the hardware names and versions of some of my computer's components in KVM's XML code. It wasn't very difficult and only took about 30 minutes in total, setting up GPU passthrough was difficult though.
Thanks so much for the info!
Honestly almost everything works on my steam deck. The only things that don't work are online only games with anti-cheat, and I barely ever touch those. I could possibly make the leap on my main pc to be fully steamos
Make the switch to Linux, by all means but I don't think you should use SteamOS as a desktop OS.
Especially if SteamOS remains immutable when it lands, then I really won't be able to suggest it except for situations like "my kids have a habit of blowing up their computers" or something.
I actually like immutable OSes exactly because most people do have a habit of blowing up their computers.
But have you tried to use one as a daily? Concept is great, but I wanted to erase kinoite from the face of the planet about 4 hous in.
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Windows is done. The only thing that can save it is if they turn it into a spy machine that can do your laundry. Then users will happily give them the keys to their lives and underwear.
Shots fired!
It's not about killing Windows.
It's about slowing making G*mers comfortable with the idea of Valve's own closed off ecosystem.
They have already made G*mers comfortable with not owning their games, loot boxes, micro transactions.
This is just another example of Valve being the money grubbing, monopolistic, anti-consumer company that they've somehow got away with for years now.
I'm not sure that Valve working to making Linux gaming a smoother experience is a strong example of them being money grubbing and anti-consumer.
Of course, but that isn't what they're saying in response to the topic of the post: the question of what the point in making steamOS available for PC's is. Is it the main reason? I'm not sure it is, but you can be sure that if it isn't contributing to Valve's bottom line in some way, it wouldn't be happening.
I assume the primary reason for Valve supporting Linux is to protect themselves against possible hostility from Microsoft. So yeah, it's a business decision to protect Valve's profits; but frankly - it's also beneficial to everyone who isn't Microsoft.
Overall, I'm not a great fan of Steam. (And generally it's me talking down Steam; recommending itch.io and GOG; and sometimes even defending Epic against what I think are unfair attacks.) But here I'm just saying that I don't really see the negative of Valve creating Steam OS. Although I don't intend to use Steam OS, I think I'm already benefiting from the support Valve has given Linux to create Steam OS.
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I usually think that gamers are by and large not critical enough when it comes to valve, but surely if they wanted to make a closed off ecosystem they wouldn't have based it on Linux and open sourced it
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