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And this idiot's vote is dozens of times more powerful than that of any voter in any major city in the country.
That guy is 200% certified dumb fuck
“We just want a change, a change in the weather,” a retired aluminium worker wanting to go just by his first name, Paul, said as he sat with a group of friends in a cigarette shop in Struthers, a down-at-heel overwhelmingly white Youngstown suburb once known for its thick clusters of bars, pizza parlours, strip clubs and illegal gambling joints.
Oh, change you'll get. Even less health care, workers rights and job protection. Poisoned air, water, and salted earth. Weather events like you couldn't imagine. Not to mention the fact that you may lose people in your life, members of your family or people you know thanks to the republican hate campaign.
Guess you get what you fucking deserve. Too bad about everyone else though.
If you’re going to be a crook, I’d rather know it than be lied to.
Of all dumb reasons for voting for Trump, this one takes the cake.
"I might be forcibly sodomized to death in a dark closet, but at least I'll know who's doing it by their voice!"
They aren’t wrong. The dems keep refusing to follow through with their broken promises. People are fed up with the establishment. I wish they had a different choice than Trump, but the DNC refuses to listen to their base and keeps propping up neoliberal center right candidates who only listen to their donors.
This is not the voter’s fault, it’s 100 % Kamala and the DNC.
Almost as if the DNC prefers a candidate like Trump over an actual left of center candidate who will follow through with the economic platform of the dems.
That's called cutting off your nose to spite your face. There are a lot of things to legitimately criticise about the Democrats. But on every single one of those issues the Republicans are far far worse.
This sounds eerily similar to the arguments blue no matter who folks were making before the election…. “Trump’s genocide will be worse than the one Biden is actively funding.”
The democrats are ignoring their base because they are bought and paid for by the same donors as the republicans. They literally give zero fucks and would rather have Trump than any candidate left of center.
Supermajorities of Americans support progressive policy agendas that the dems refuse to even acknowledge, let alone advocate for.
This is 100% the fault of the dem leadership, but they are happy because they will get tax cuts and more campaign donations from their oligarchs.
But in what way does voting Republican fix any of this?
I don’t know. I did not vote republican lol. But I do know that a lot of folks see the economy as the number one issue, and a lot of folks are worried about immigration…. Dems are better in general at having actual policy platforms than the repubs but Kamala failed on both of these issues, this is without regard to the whole genocide thing which Biden has been furtively supporting this whole time which has turned a lot of dems and young people away
Trump did a stupid speech with cans of beans in the background while Kamala was hugging CEO’s…. And Kamala was also celebrating that another war criminal, Dick Cheney, had endorsed her
Edit. Neither Kamala nor Biden fought back when the parliamentarian said they could not do 15 $ minimum wage in a reconciliation bill.. do you believe Trump admin will listen to a parliamentarian when they want to jam through other crazy shit? They already got the boofing Supreme Court justice by ignoring precendent
Biden was weak af and if you think he is the best since FDR I can’t even talk to you bruh
That's not even an attempt to answer my question. What I'm saying is, however bad Biden and the Dems are (and they are, of course) the Republicans are much much worse. So people who vote for Trump because they don't like the Dems are just fucking stupid.
Thing is, yeah they're fucking stupid but they're also voters who the Dems could have persuaded and hardly tried. Repeatedly spamming "vote for us or you get Trumped again" doesn't count as persuasion.
Yea, but you’re not going to get anywhere thrashing and slamming independents who voted for Trump… Hillary chastising Dems and Obama chastising black men pretty much proved that…
We are not going to get anywhere by blaming the voters like the establishment politicians have been doing, this is a leadership issue… I heard Cory bush spelling today on npr this afternoon…
If Dems don’t want progressive voters in their party they need to come out and say it. Say who you are.
And if you don’t want progressives it’s probably why you lost the election…. Because you lied about what you care about…. America is a progressive country of voters run by a citizens united corrupt Supreme Court ruling
I agree with all of that. But that still doesn't change that fact that anybody who voted for Trump is a fucking moron who voted against their own interests.
People don’t like politics, they don’t watch the news… it’s pretty simple really, the dems suck azz
They are wrong. The Republicans lie constantly about being crooks. They literally call themselves the "law and order" party all the time.
It's bullshit motivated reasoning by someone who doesn't want to admit the real reasons they went for Trump.
Most voters don’t have time to pay attention to politics… hate to break it to you
These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.
Except no one's laughing about that in this case.
Putin sure is, as is Winnie the Xi.
Look, I know things are hard, but that's a really narrow take. At the very very least the democrats would not tear down what social services you could still claim. This is like shooting yourself in the foot, and being like "fuck that hurt, maybe it will be better next time?" Instead of "oh shit, better not shoot myself in the foot again".
Or, "maybe if I shoot myself in the other foot, it'll be better this time"
The same foot again.
One round is the first foot, crippling but you can still get around.
This is definitely the other foot, planned and understood it would likely hurt - now completely unable to walk.
The pain in the second foot will make me forget about the pain in the first foot.
No, the analogy is “maybe I’ll shoot myself in the same foot again, but with 12 gauge”
After shooting yourself the first time, you may have recovered enough to walk normally. Imagine being so frustrated with that so you make sure you can never walk again
Betras said Trump’s success was a symptom of the Democrats’ failure to address the catastrophic impact of international trade agreements on manufacturing jobs in the US – a failure he pins on Bill Clinton and Barack Obama – and its further failure, under Obama, to take any meaningful action against Wall Street or the big banks after the housing collapse of 2007-08.
Whatever else you think about the article or about Ohio voters, these are valid and accurate criticisms in my view.
democrat leadership will see this and think “damn! they are on to us we have to lie and scheme even harder at the expense of human dignity next time!”
This is the state of the American electorate. Just a total lack of critical thinking.
It's by design and their goal is to make it worse.
Where this fucking idiot was wrong was in thinking that Amerikkka has ever or will ever care about the common person. lol
Burn the whole country to the ground
Where does that get us other then ash?
“I’m not going to vote against my best interests, I’m also going to destroy everything that in any way helps me”
Hey idk about you but im a morrowind player and id prefer vvardenfell to amerikka any day. I happen to think ash storms are relaxing. Which is why i modded more into my game.
When Nazi Germany burned there was a Germany after. Sometimes something's too far gone to save.
I think at some point this is just overanalyzing things. People vote for the same team they always have. It is like asking a football fan why they root for their team. There often isn't a real answer and what they tell you is ultimately nonsensical.
Interesting idea. I watch american football but i never got into it until later. And i find it interesting that i have no teams i prefer exactly. I just like to see the different plays and stuff. I do always vote left. But ive never considered democrats my team. Just the most closely aligned i guess. I would vote 3rd party if i felt it made a difference and there was a candidate i liked that i felt could win.
Post-hoc explanations. They're super common once you start looking into people's everyday actions.
If people just vote for “the home team”, wouldn’t the results be similar every time? Yet we have different parties winning by different amounts every year.
Going only by myself, I don’t know, I suppose you could be right ….. I moved to an area where people were politically more like me and I vote for different variations that are mostly compatible with my desires. I have voted third party in the past but aside from local offices, that just seems like a waste of my vote. I have voted for candidates from the other party when they seem to be the better choice. So I do generally vote for candidates from the same party, except when I don’t.
I am all about voting for who you want regardless of party. On a side note, some states make it so if you pick Republican or the Democratic party you have to vote for those candidates only.
I really wasn't saying this particular person was just voting for the home team. I was more generally saying that all this over analyzing about what happened has its limits and some people just vote for their team and there is no real point wringing our hands about it anymore.
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