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Summary

Democrats blame Attorney General Merrick Garland for delaying prosecution of Donald Trump over the January 6 Capitol attack, allowing him to win reelection before facing trial.

Critics argue Garland wasted critical time before appointing a special prosecutor in late 2022, enabling Trump to evade accountability due to DOJ policy barring prosecution of sitting presidents.

While Trump faces ongoing civil lawsuits, his return to power threatens pardons for convicted rioters and continued revisionism about the attack.

Despite public disapproval of Trump's actions, he successfully leveraged misinformation to regain the presidency.

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[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 115 points 3 months ago

Biden's legacy will be forever known as the man who enabled Trump to take over and ruin the "democracy" that Biden said he would save. Biden is America's Hindenburg, acting like it was the moral and noble duty to appoint someone so corrupt and evil that if they had a devil whispering on their shoulder, that devil is the lesser evil.

Every single day Trump escaped jail is a day Biden should have fast tracked it, making sure his "one term" was going to actually going to do what he aimed to do, attempt to solve the crisis of Trump.

And now Biden will probably retire and/or flee the country as the people who voted for him and Harris are going to be sent to concentration camps. The Democrats will stick around as long as Trump wants them to, and when Trump wants to get rid of them, the higher ups will probably evade arresting, and the voters won't be able to.

Nothing else pisses me off more. I voted for Biden to help take care of Trump. I hated supporting a racist old bastard, but I did it because I wanted the orange fucker gone and behind bars where he rotted away. And then he even failed at that.

I hate Trump, but my vitriol is towards people who can do better but refuse to do anything but sit by and watch the show. Refusing to chose a side as one side openly starts planning a governmental hostage situation to remove the rights of anyone but who is willing to lick Trump's ass clean is choosing a side, and it's not a good one.

God damn.

[-] SoleInvictus 33 points 3 months ago

Holy shit, you're right. I've been wondering if/when we'd get a Hindenburg equivalent, but you nailed it. We already have one.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

The best part is if you could, you'd vote for him again without learning anything every time

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago

What's the solution then, vote for Trump? 🙃

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Democrats cared more about preserving the First-past-the-post voting system then they did beating trump. They wanted easy elections with no one threatening the status quo.

The self proclaimed democracy defenders didn't level the playing field and give 3rd parties equal access to the electoral process.

Given their rhetoric, democrats understood what was at stake and still chose to not replace FPTP voting in states they controlled. Party over country till the bitter end.

[-] SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Voting for anyone besides Trump was the objectively correct decision.

Sorry spite makes it hard for you to process reality

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 22 points 3 months ago

What the fuck stupid shit is this?

Once Nader lost in 2000 it was over and inevitable. It showed republicans you can cry and win. Then the war on terrorism and the Patriot Act and the tea party now here.

Thinking people vote Biden and now bad is what a moron with no historical context believes. Your comment is stupid.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Well yeah, I would have preferred to not have to uproot my family and emigrate, but now I'm left without much of a choice in order to protect my queer daughter from what Republicans have in store for people like her. I'm weird that way.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 68 points 3 months ago

while true that merrick garland bungled this, i think we need to talk about who allowed him to bungle this. the call is coming from inside the house

[-] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 58 points 3 months ago

Merrick Garland wasted more than a year. That worthless waste of oxygen should be remembered as the reason we lost even the pretense of a democracy.

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I never understood why Biden picked him. Obama only nominated him for SCOTUS because he thought he could get him past the GOP held senate due to his moderate beliefs (in the pejorative conservative sense).

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Because Biden is not and will never be a progressive.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 57 points 3 months ago

AND WHO FUCKING APPOINTED MERRICK GARLAND?

[-] Sumocat@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago

It wouldn’t have stopped him from winning the election. Trump escaped accountability when the Senate failed to convict him in his second impeachment. That, and the first impeachment, were the only convictions that would have barred him from running. Two impeachments, one coup attempt, one felony conviction, and we still elected him. Pretty sure that’s on us.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Technically he is barred from holding office. He's was shown to incite the Jan 6 insurrection in Colorado as a matter of fact.

The US Supreme Court said that Colarado couldn't prevent him from running, it would be up to congress to reject him.

Of course congress won't, but they are totally within their rights to do so now. Other people have been barred from holding offices over it.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

Where "us" isn't even the majority of basically any demographic but "uneducated". Cool, good to know it's my fault

[-] Sumocat@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago
[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

DNC tried to get away with as much as shenanigans as they possible could while simultaneously calling this the most important election of our lifetimes. They get a massive share of the blame as well. Biden/Harris's policy choices, when they made any at all, were awful.

[-] doctordevice@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

I'm also very disappointed in the so-called accomplishments of the Biden/Harris administration, but I firmly believe the DNC's complete unwillingness to run a primary without thumbing the scale is the main reason for how awful the last 12 years have been. If they could just run a normal goddamn primary without the bullshit we may be able to unify behind the nominee a little easier.

[-] derek@infosec.pub 47 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's not too late. The 14th amendment Section 3 specifically prohibits an insurrectionist from holding public office unless a special Congressional vote is held and passes with a 2/3rds majority.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

All US citizens should call their representatives and demand they uphold their sworn Constitutional duty to refuse the certification of Donald Trump's victory as he is disqualified from holding office.

This is not speculation. Donald Trump was successfully impeached for inciting insurrection. The US is in the middle of a Constitutional crisis which Congress must resolve.

Finding your reps is easy. Go here:

https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member

Either let the site use your location or enter your home address. It'll pull all the info you need in one click.

[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago

He was impeached but not convicted by the feckless, obsequious Senate. And he wasn't convicted by the courts. So this won't happen, unfortunately

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[-] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

This is not speculation. Donald Trump was successfully impeached for inciting insurrection.

Did you stop reading your link at the title? Literally the third sentence:

On February 13, 2021, the Senate voted to acquit Trump on the article of impeachment.

If you want to dig into the arguments about what is and isn't legally insurrection and if the 14th Amendment is self executing or not, that is an interesting discussion. But, don't lead with a "pants on head" stupid argument that the House passed Articles of Impeachment, for which the Senate acquitted him, as evidence that the 14th Amendment applies. Just fucking no.

[-] derek@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago

Nope. I read it. The language of the 14th doesn't require an impeachment or other formal conviction to apply. The fact that Trump was successfully impeached for inciting an insurrection is enough. The Senate's failure to execute its duty does not erase reality.

At this time, on this topic, I am not concerned with what makes for interesting conservation. I am interested in bringing attention to the ongoing Constitutional crisis of Trump's tentative second term.

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[-] Orbituary@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

How about looking inward, Dems? How about accepting responsibility for not proffering a candidate who could beat Trump?

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Every article and a majority of the comments keep framing this as "Democrats fail to..." and "Democrats need to .." and even that feels disingenuous. The DNC and the current administration is to blame. The wording tries to spread blame to the voters as well and I have no idea what we as voters could have done with the "campaign" we were given.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Self reflection? Sounds like you're racist and sexist for not voting hard enough! /$

[-] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Absolutely spineless administration

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

There are many forms of accountability.

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Can't Biden remove the power to pardon without, say, 3/4th of Congress or something..that would be funny.

[-] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Droll, baby, droll!

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