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[-] grue@lemmy.world 214 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

>reboot to bootloader -> unlock -> you will use your warranty -> yes

It's fucking outrageous that companies are allowed to blatantly lie like that (you will not, in fact, lose your warranty -- Federal law doesn't allow it). Every company that displays such a fraudulent message ought to be fined by the FTC, or worse.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 68 points 3 months ago

ought to be fined by the FTC, or worse

Fines don't work, just start throwing people in jail already.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

By its nature, the only penalties that can be applied to a corporate entity are fines or revoking its charter. The latter is what I had in mind when I wrote "or worse," although I suppose piercing the corporate veil and going after the company's executives personally is certainly an option too!

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[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 112 points 3 months ago

At this point, I find a rom I like then shop for a new phone in the supported section

[-] BatrickPateman@lemmy.world 66 points 3 months ago

Bought my Pixel just for GrapheneOS. It is not perfect, but better than all the Samsung etc. shit. And for the next couple years I am not forced to upgrade due to missing security updates, so there's that.

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[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 84 points 3 months ago

Don't forget the part where the preinstalled OS forces you to accept the Google ToS. You just spent a few hundred bucks on a new phone and then it won't let you use it without also selling your soul.

[-] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 78 points 3 months ago

I am concerned to find myself in a green text unironically

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 26 points 3 months ago

My sexual orientation is now this post.

[-] passiveaggressivesonar@lemmy.world 73 points 3 months ago

All that trouble yet you still install whatsapp. Make them text you by sms

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago
[-] Ashelyn 33 points 3 months ago

SMS is arguably worse than WhatsApp, at least in terms of overall security

[-] underwire212@lemm.ee 24 points 3 months ago

SMS is literally unencrypted and contents of messages stored on your cell provider’s servers. At least WhatsApp is E2E encrypted (even if the metadata isn’t- just use Signal).

[-] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

At least WhatsApp is E2E encrypted

Unless the source code is available it's not e2e encrypted.

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[-] PagPag@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago
[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 months ago

Make them text you by sms

SMS is expensive in Europe. There is a border and international charges every 100 kms.

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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 62 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

GrapheneOS. Easy, quick, reliable.

Yeah you have to buy a phone by Google but I don't mind giving them money to reward them for making a decent phone with an easily unlockable bootloader that lets you do what you want with it, even if it means denying them your data. This is extremely atypical from a company like Google so I want to encourage that kind of behavior.

[-] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 27 points 3 months ago
[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

-no SD slot
-no headphone jack
-no swappable battery
-camera juts off the back so it doesn't even sit flat

But hey, you can take your temperature by pointing the camera at your forehead!

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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Paid under 400 for a new Pixel 7 two years ago after waiting for the prices to go down and it was about to be discontinued. No idea how much they cost now but you'll always overpay if you go for the latest and greatest.

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[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Pixel 7a can be bought new for 350€, this is what I would consider a decent phone. Admittedly I don't need much from my phone other than text, web browsing, taking photos.

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[-] nul42@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago

For peeps who want a lower cost option, Motorola allows easy unlocking too. I have a moto g7 power that I got for under $100 running Lineageos with microG. Its a six year old phone but it runs Android 14 just fine. I work in construction and I don't even use a case because these Motorola phones are durable and inexpensive.

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[-] thezeesystem 59 points 3 months ago

My banking app won't work if I'm rooted and before that when I had developer mode on it wouldn't work. Just gave me a error so I have the login to Firefox each time. I hate apps that block you because they can't track you anymore

[-] kipo@lemm.ee 46 points 3 months ago

Banks that do this are just ignorant and hypocritical. Those same banks will let you log in from a web browser on the phone that is just as (un)likely to be compromised or from a desktop computer where you also have admin rights.

[-] bokherif@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago
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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago

And that's after you swim through a hundred forum posts to figure out how the fuck to do it and why the fuck it isn't working.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 3 months ago

helps if you specifically get a phone model that isn't absolute bullshit, pixels generally don't actively fight you, which is extremely ironic since they're google's flagship.

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[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago
  • There was a problem initializing your phone, contact customer service.
  • Customer service flash restores everything back to the way it was in the box.
[-] fum@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago

This, except install LineageOS and don't bother with removing google/Samsung stuff. And skip whatsapp as my older contacts email me and younger ones have moved to Signal

[-] underwire212@lemm.ee 25 points 3 months ago
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[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 24 points 3 months ago

Install WhatsApp

That's when you lost me. Either teach your boomer relatives to use Signal, Matrix, or, at the very least, Telegram. Otherwise, let them reach to you via Facebook which you open only in web browser in containerized tab.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 months ago

Otherwise, let them reach to you via Facebook which you open only in web browser in containerized tab.

I just hire a rando guy from a different country to become me on Facebook. Then I have them email screenshots to a different email. A separate person gets those emails and prints them out. They mail it to a PO box, which gets picked up by a whole different person. The handoff happens at 615pm at the subway on Broadway Ave.

I open the handoff. It's pictures of my niece celebrating her 6th birthday. I give the guy a thumbs up. He takes that thumbs up, translates it back to paper and reverses the whole process.

It takes 6 weeks for me to respond. But that's the price of security.

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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago

I would skip the WhatsApp. It’s trash. Fight me.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago

I would skip the WhatsApp. It’s trash. Fight ~~me~~ hundreds of million people for whom WhatsApp is the de facto standard for instant messaging and calls.

FTFY. I was in Bali this summer, everyone uses WhatsApp. Spent three days in an upscale hotel, on the check-in form they specifically ask for your WhatsApp number, which they use for everything: room service, special requests, restaurant and spa bookings, ...

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[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 16 points 3 months ago

This post makes me want to check out graphene OS when I get my new phone.

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[-] michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 months ago

Whatsapp now refuses to work if your phone js rooted or you don't have Gapps.

[-] HaleHirsute@infosec.pub 16 points 3 months ago

And I refuse to use WhatsApp, screw Facebook.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Why would you use whatsapp? If you'e going to all this trouble to get Zuck and the Googleplex out of your phone, why go right back to them?

[-] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 19 points 3 months ago

Humans are social creatures, and sometimes the other creatures are idiots

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