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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Enkrod@feddit.org to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world

If they can elect a felon to the white house, so could we.

Edit: Better image, thanks to @PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee

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[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 179 points 3 months ago

Actually... Shit. That's kind of a good point. His approach was the non-violent solution.

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago

If we're fighting with the same weapons, then Biden's last act should be a pardon for Luigi...

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 69 points 3 months ago

Biden is not on our side on this issue, that's part of the problem. He is and was the candidate that the people who didn't want healthcare reform pushed in to block Bernie from putting the issue on the ballot by running on it.

[-] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 3 months ago

I keep hearing this idea floated, do people really think that Biden is not on the same side as the health insurance companies??

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[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 110 points 3 months ago

I upvoted, but these kinds of posts make me uncomfortable. Luigi was a wealthy crypto bro working though a mental crisis. Luigi is not lefty batman.

I am very happy about the discussions his actions are creating and the overreaction from the upper class, but I am not sure it is a good idea to glorify Luigi.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 151 points 3 months ago

Explain how Batman was not a wealthy crypto bro working though a mental crisis ?

[-] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 53 points 3 months ago

lmaooo

tangentially I feel like Batman could never jive with leftist ideology anyhow. His whole thing is beating and scaring the crime out of people, which is in contrast to the leftist idea that crime happens because the needs of individuals (physical, psychological, and social) are not met by their material conditions.

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

the leftist idea that crime happens because the needs of individuals (physical, psychological, and social) are not met by their material conditions.

Like, why do people always jump to thinking there can only be one correct option out of multiple choices?

I am sure there are many people committing crimes because they can't fulfill their basic needs any other way.

But do you think Trump is lacking in material conditions? People are diverse and they commit crimes for diverse reasons.

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[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 34 points 3 months ago

Good point ☝️

Also batman didn't change the systemic issues with Gotham.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Also batman didn’t change the systemic issues with Gotham.

This is exactly what I have been saying since the assassination. You cannot fix systemic problems with vigilantism.

Did anyone's coverage go down? No. Did UHC just deny the claim of a woman in a coma? Yes.

https://www.newsweek.com/united-healtchare-claim-deny-brian-thompson-luigi-mangione-insurance-2008307

You cannot fix systemic problems with vigilantism.

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[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 84 points 3 months ago

Luigi was a wealthy crypto bro working though a mental crisis. Luigi is not lefty batman.

That sounds a lot like Batman.

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

That's why I use Saint Luigi. It's a ignore all the things that don't line up with the ideal, and only focus on those that do kind of thing. Just like the churches do with thier saints. Lol

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[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 54 points 3 months ago

If you’re waiting for perfect, you’ll be waiting for ever.

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago

I don't think he's a hero, but his actions are the inevitable outcome of our system.

When justice can no longer be achieved through peaceful demonstration or the legal system, people will increasingly turn to violence as their only option.

While I won't celebrate violence, I do prefer targeted violence upon those causing the damage to mass murders of innocents.

If you're going to murder someone - don't. But if that doesn't stop you, I'd rather the victim be someone who damages the world instead of schoolchildren and churchgoers.

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[-] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

There will never be the perfect Robin Hood. Engels was wealthy, Bernie is a millionaire.

Really the point is that Luigi is (allegedly) right, and represents a justifiable sentiment of disdain for the system and class solidarity.

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[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 26 points 3 months ago

It's not glorifying Luigi. He's a vigilante. The health insurance companies are criminals in the eye of the majority, and the majority can't get it changed through legal peaceful means. The vigilante sees an injustice and takes it upon themselves to enact justice extrajudicially.

As we have seen, the majority appears to to support his actions. His background is unimportant. Humans are very grey. That's one of the things that democracy can account for.

Think of it this way: if he was willing to risk all that he had to enact justice once does that not make him better than many of us? How many of us have smaller amounts of excess, are directly impacted by the health insurance companies, yet have done nothing but take steps that have not helped anyone else? That's the definition of sacrifice rather than compromise.

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[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 25 points 3 months ago

I appreciate you trying to shift the narrative and demonize our modern day folk hero, but it’s probably not going to work.

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[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 21 points 3 months ago

Honestly, I feel about the same. Meme is funny, and I thoroughly enjoy the discussion, which is why I posted it, but I want actual leftist leaders in charge, not actual Luigi.

The point though is: Bernie was the working class trying to better the system from the inside. If the system keeps fucking us over, the system CAN be overthrown through different means.

The political class better realise that it's in their favour to have us change the system non violently.

[-] Shard@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

When has Batman been lefty?

His generally agreed upon biography is a wealthy billionaire trust fund baby who suffered great emotional loss and broke, who now spends the rest of his life and fortune fighting injustice

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 52 points 3 months ago

I'd vote for him. Or against his conviction, if I was on his jury.

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[-] loaf@sh.itjust.works 47 points 3 months ago

I love this.

[-] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
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[-] m3t00@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

if we nominate him, lawyers can drag out his case until ...

[-] jdf038@mander.xyz 26 points 3 months ago

Holy shit yeah it's a get outta jail free card right?!

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[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 19 points 3 months ago

I'm probably going to get downvoted into oblivion for this, but I don't care. The "left" fawning over Luigi is the same energy as the "right" fawning over Kyle Rittenhouse.

[-] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 103 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Except one fought an oppressor, the other took a trip to do some oppressing themselves.

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[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 58 points 3 months ago

First, the right is also fawning over Luigi.

More importantly, you're missing the underlying point of this meme. It's displayed in the other pieces of text. We wanted Bernie and would've been happy to make that much progress nonviolently, but the DNC did not allow that. And "oppression makes revolution inevitable" because there's no such thing as negotiating with your oppressor. Think of a hostage situation. The people who successfully negotiate away that situation are the police because they are backed with the threat of violence. Those who crave power will never give it up voluntarily.

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[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 38 points 3 months ago

Kyle Rittenhouse was a moronic murderer who actively wanted to kill someone for some pathetic reason and was crying like a little bitch when he was in court. He provoked a fight with some random guy and when others tried to apprend him (and they were in the right to do so. If Kyle was shot then and there as he should have, the shooting had strong elements of legal self-defense). Luigi set out purposefully to kill a powerful person who kills tens of thousands of people a year with paperwork and wants to kill even more. He can be replaced, sure, but his killing sent out a powerful statement to the wealthy.

Also Kyle is so fucking stupid that he failed the USMC aptitude test so badly that he was not allowed to take it again. Given that normally you are allowed three tries and it isn't that difficult of a test, that is saying a lot.

[-] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 33 points 3 months ago

Except rotten house has incel energy while luigi has mega chad energy.

Billionaires and their well paid .1% millionaire lap dogs are our oppressors. Rittenhouse went fully armed with the intentions of shooting unarmed blm protestors

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

You can't possibly believe that is true. You're just looking for controversy.

[-] forrgott@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago

Nobody on the right is fawning over Luigi, huh?

I don't fucking think so...

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 17 points 3 months ago

Yeah, totally the same thing. No critical thought at all.

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