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[-] StarlightDust 3 points 6 days ago

Its not an unusual thing for lesbian couples to pick a new surname for themselves.

[-] hungryphrog 285 points 1 week ago

Sorry OP but this kinda gives "EPIC: WOKE FEMINAZI OWNED ON CAMERA" vibes.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 113 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah... it can be interpreted that way. But even as a feminist myself, it is a dumb performative sort of protest. Paternal surnames are the least important fixtures of our patriarchal society, and, unless it was created wholecloth, there are no surnames that aren't patriarchal historically, as the meme points out.

[-] hungryphrog 23 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I wasn't trying to call you a misogynist, just point out how the meme might look at first glance.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

Wasn't my post, just advocating for OP

[-] hungryphrog 10 points 1 week ago
[-] zea_64 11 points 1 week ago

If they think their actions are having much effect, sure, but otherwise I think you're making assumptions and overreacting. Not everything is for show, people can do things like that just because they personally want to.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

The context of the meme implied she was doing it because she's a feminist and that taking her mother's name was somehow an expression of that. Of course she can do that, but it isn't achieving anything if that was the goal

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 12 points 1 week ago

she is achieving and asserting herself, a right that is denied to her on most every other level.

names are symbols. taking ownership of your name may not be material, but it is meaningful. if names were meaningless, trans people wouldn’t change their names, African-American communities wouldn’t change their names, et cetera. but they do, and feminists do, because achieving oneself, having domain over oneself even to the extent of identity, is meaningful especially against a history where that right is restricted against you in favor of the dominant class.

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

That's the point, but satirically. The fact that homelander is the second frame immediately means the take is bad.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago

Sweet child... The amount of people who don't see homelander is scary

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[-] MBM@lemmings.world 19 points 1 week ago

OP's comments don't seem very satyrical :')

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[-] Faresh@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

I don't think that's obvious to anyone who hasn't watched that movie/series/whatever. At least it wasn't obvious to me, because I don't know that guy.

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[-] vzq@lemmy.world 150 points 1 week ago

It’s a shit post, I’ll give you that.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 115 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

with no ill will for you, OP, genuinely fuck this boomer ass “joke”

a woman’s name is her name. she lives with it for 1 lifetime, absolutely no shorter than her grandfather does. “male” is not somehow the default human identity. stop trying to enforce that standard.

[-] dandelion 61 points 1 week ago

I think the point of the joke might be more that an attempt to start a matrilineal naming scheme is foiled somewhat from the fact that the maiden name of the mother is derived from her father, i.e. you can't escape that the last names all come from patrilineal sources for generations.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

If a woman is committed to the idea, she could break the patrilineal naming convention simply by creating herself a new last name, and encouraging her children to take that name instead of their father's.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 11 points 1 week ago

This is true, but who decided that a woman keeping her maiden name is just using her father’s name? That idea comes from patriarchy. If I inherit something at birth, like a rare coin, it’s mine, whether it came from my mom or dad. The same goes for a woman’s name—it’s hers because she’s had it since birth. Suggesting she doesn’t own it, and must create a new name to escape, reinforces the idea that only patrilineal identity matters and undermines her autonomy in making that choice.

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[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

…yeah? exactly what i said? i don’t disagree at all except you possibly ignore that the butt of the joke is the woman, normalizing the very repression she attempts to subvert. it’s undermining and mocking the woman’s identity intentionally by asserting the dominance of patriarchal schemes over her own life and decision. (perhaps unintentionally, but nevertheless really.)

in America, historically Black names are also dominated by the history of slavery and white supremacy (different functions, but the end result: subjugation, is parallel). i would post a similar comment hating on a post mocking Black folk for resisting these patterns as well! :)

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[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 103 points 1 week ago

When people get married they should come up with a completely new last name for them both.

[-] raoul@lemmy.sdf.org 99 points 1 week ago
[-] nicknonya 76 points 1 week ago

our beautiful baby boy Robert 3de2d34e-a089-4a5a-acd8-b00d7c7eb07a

[-] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I mean it's not far off from Musk's X AE ZigZag VII Advent Children and Kkkopernicus Diceware Password kids.

[-] JohnAnthony@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah, little Bobby 3d we call him

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Calm down Enoch Root

[-] zea_64 10 points 1 week ago

There's even a website cataloguing them all! https://everyuuid.com/

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[-] cobysev@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

A coworker of mine did this. He and his new wife took parts of their last names and blended them together to create a unique new last name for both of them.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I hope it wasn't a tragedeigh

[-] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 week ago

A lot of last names here are frozen patronyms (e.g. at some point some dude named Hans had kids; now there are lots of people calling themselves his son, Hansen) or place names. I kinda like the place name bit: Just give kids last names to a place they have a connection to. Where they were born or conceived or something.

[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

🎤 My name is chika-chika Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

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[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago

Also jobs. Lots of millers, smiths and hunters etc

[-] Mickey7@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Ironically no one had the last name of "prostitute" or "harlot"

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[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 12 points 1 week ago

Dragon Rider The Bathroom At The Roller Rink

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[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Terrible idea. People clearly already struggling at naming kids. Coming up with a family name will be endless letters making the wrong sound, random sections being 'silent', so many puns or references to things, corporate advertising "oh it's the X.com family!"... Terrible, just terrible.

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[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 11 points 1 week ago

My wife and I actually did this, sort of. Not a completely new name, but we took her grandmother's name, rather than either of ours. Or, her great grandfather's name, I suppose.

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[-] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 68 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure only people on the internet argue about this. No one actually cares what other's do with their last name after marriage.

This post has 2017 reddit vibes. Not in a good way either.

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 53 points 1 week ago

I know this is a shitposting community but these are, every goddamn one of them, the dumbest possible takes you could have opened a new year with.

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[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 week ago

Unpopular opinion: Last names are inherently patriarchal and so is marriage

[-] dingus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Yeah I've always thought it was weird that women are supposed to give up their identity to a man to be married. I'm not really sure why hyphenated names aren't as popular in the western world or why people don't occasionally chose to take the woman's name. I know that women don't have to change their names, but then often you'll have the kids as the same name as the father anyway but not the mother. So I've heard many women say that they did it so their kids would share their last name.

Hell, I don't even like my father. But my name is who I am and I like it.

[-] Lauchmelder@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago

with hyphenated names: what would the children do then? you can't keep adding more and more names like that (both practically and legally in some cases). serious question because I've also thought about that

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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago

On Spain we have two last names, one for the father other for the mother.

And while before the father's was always the first, since many years couples of newborn babies can choose the order of the surnames.

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[-] uriel238 32 points 1 week ago

Make up your own surname to assert dominance. Or go by your internet handle.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Reminder that surnames didn't exist before the middle ages, you just had a singular name that people shouted to get your attention. Since you lived in a community of several dozen people, you didn't need to do much to differentiate yourself from the other "John" in your town because everyone knows each other. You lived and died just as "John" and would be remembered by your kids for a generation if you were lucky. There was no need to keep track of genealogy, you were a pair of hands and legs, you were supposed to get out there and plow that field and that's all your baron or lord cared about.

But somewhere after the black plague ravaged Europe and we lost a sizeable chunk of the human population, suddenly workers became in high-demand. Industrialist lords and landowners suddenly didn't have people smithing their horse shoes or making their bread, so they had to go poach people from far away towns and suddenly workers had power and options. As a way to get noticed for your family's tradeskill, you would have been wise to advertise this to wealthy employers, the best way was to attach your trade to your name. You were now John Baker to differentiate yourself from John the Drunkard if anyone came looking to hire someone who could cook bread.

So surnames are advertising. It's all it's ever been. There's nothing ancient and special about your name, it was just how your ancestors tried to make a buck.

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[-] fargeol@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

If you didn't know, Spanish people have two names: the first name of their father and the first name of their mother.

Since these names are their grandfathers names, here's a better proposal : the first name of your father and the second name of your mother. In that case, your first name corresponds to a bloodline of men and your second name to a bloodline of women... Unless their was a same-sex couple in your family, obviously.

Bonus point, since you get your Y chromosome (if you have one) from your biological father and your mitochondrial DNA from your biological mother, your names correspond to your actual DNA... Unless you're adopted or illegitimate, obviously.

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[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Yeah, my mom said she didn't care about taking my dad's last name, that it didn't matter since, in her words "women don't have last names anyway" they are just a way of tracing men's family lines.

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