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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/23718803

Summary

The Taliban have banned windows in homes that allow views of areas where Afghan women might be seen, citing concerns over "obscene acts."

This new decree mandates blocking or obstructing such windows in existing and new buildings, continuing the group's systemic repression of women since regaining control of Afghanistan in August 2021.

The Taliban's policies have included bans on women's education, public appearances, and voices.

Critics, including the U.N., warn these actions dangerously erode human rights, while activists call out global inaction over the ongoing oppression.

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[-] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 102 points 1 month ago

They should probably just ban women outright until they learn how to live beside women responsibly

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

I REALLY want to find an arab woman who's lived under taliban rule, but also speaks english. I really want to ask her a hypothetical question.

I live in America. I see naked women quite frequently. I live in a society where I've literally gone in public, and seen women wearing a thong bikini, basically made of dental floss, and no top.

The logic of the taliban is that women cannot reveal their bodies to men, or it will FORCE the men to abuse and rape the women. I have frequently been in the presense of naked and near naked women. I am a man. I have never beat or raped a woman.

So I want to ask a woman who's had experience first hand living with the taliban.

Would you feel safer living naked with me everyday? Or fully clothed everyday with the taliban?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 54 points 1 month ago

People in Afghanistan aren't Arabs; they're Afghans. They notably don't speak Arabic.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

:O

My mistake. I legit thought they did.

Soooooooo, what do they speak?

[-] carotte 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

from a quick glance at Wikipedia, the official languages are Dari and Pashto, spoken by 75% and 48% of the population respectively, but many other languages are also spoken

Arabic is only spoken by 1% of the Afghani population, which is less than English (6%)

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

To be clear, Dari and Pashto are considerably less prevalent than Arabic's global native speaker estimate you listed. Per Wikipedia, even:

Dari: ~31 million speakers worldwide (~0.38%), and the native tongue for ~50% of Afghanistan

Pashto: ~40 million speakers worldwide (~0.24%), and the native tongue for ~48% of Afghanistan

And, technically, the native speaker stat on a global scale for Arabic is closer to 3% (~310 million = ~4.61%), with English is nearer 4.61% (373 million). Technically. 🤓

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure they're talking about the Afghani population here

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[-] candybrie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The 1% Arabic and 6% English weren't global speakers but Afghani speakers.

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

They speak 7 different languages since they are separate groups and the country was drawn by foreign superpowers at the time. So not shaped by a common ethnicity or shared idea like other countries.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

That is a creepy-ass thing to ask any woman. WTF dude? They're probably safer with the Taliban.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

No need to burst into outrage over details while burring the lede. Why is this so common around here? Yes, the question can be phrased more sensibly but that's not important and it's largely inconsequential to their point. Jfc. lol

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

What do you mean burying the lede?? His entire creepy post was about asking Afghani women if they would rather live under the taliban or naked in his house.

What kind of a sicko wants to ask that?

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I believe the intent was, "Don't you find it odd that I've never beaten or raped a woman, if it is ostensibly inevitable?" Or "How do you explain that I've never..."

But it'd make more sense to ask a misogynistic Afghani man. E.g. "Wouldn't you rather your wife live naked in my home?"

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[-] Shou@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

No they are not. What do you think happens behind closed doors/windows?

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

Great idea .... just get them to export all the women, then when they want children, ship their semen over, artificially inseminate the women, keep female children, send male children after a few years old to live in Afghanistan with their all male family. Just ban women completely from the country.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

There’s an Anime that did gender segregation in a similar way (and for similarly chauvinistic reasons), but on a planetary scale - Vandread.

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[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 63 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Taliban bringing the year of the Linux desktop closer wasn't on my bingo card.

Jokes, but I'm surprised how these misogynistic shitheads can reproduce with how they are afraid of women.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago
[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Weak men bring sick times.

[-] GreenAppleTree@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

year of the Linux desktop

I saw the headline and was like, "well the Lemmy crowd would love this". One half loves authoritarian regimes, the other half hates windows.

[-] josefo@leminal.space 16 points 1 month ago

They re not afraid of using women as domestic appliances for reproduction and housekeeping, because they are objects, property. They have problems with other men eyeing their property.

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You are correct, but I will never understand how they can see their own mother like this. Who thinks of their mom as an appliance?

Those men will never be loved. Just a bunch of deeply damaged psychopaths.

[-] josefo@leminal.space 8 points 1 month ago

Well, in your last bit I think you got how. People with little to none emotional bonding, affection and contact, tend to develop psychopathic or at least sociopathic disorders.

My country has never been on that level of misogyny and male dominance, but my dad generation and my grandpa generation were respectively worse than today in terms of women being the house servant, and motherly love and affection was looked down because of the idea it would soften the boys and make them gay or effeminate, too soft to be real men in the future. From young age they learned about your mother and sisters being the ones that occupy themselves with house chores and you are not expected to even learn how to do anything. Males are the ones that bring money, thus deserve to be served.

I see how, in a more extreme setting, your mother is not really more than a human incubator and servant. You had no human contact with her or developed any kind of bond.

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[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

There is a long tradition of how eastern society functions and how women see themselfes in it, BUUUUUUT

Talibs overtook a country modeled after european states with two decades of gender equality and stuff, and them undoing it is not a return to tradition but self-inflicted barbarism to please 50% sausage havers.

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[-] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 month ago

Why don't they just blind all the men who can't control themselves?

[-] carbonari_sandwich@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago
[-] josefo@leminal.space 11 points 1 month ago

That was never taken literally by christians, where Jesus is god incarnate, why would ever work for islam where he is just considered a prophet.

[-] AugustWest@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Convenient that the parables and commands suggesting persecution of those different than yourself must be taken literally, but when Jesus says something that impacts you directly, suddenly he’s a master of metaphor.

[-] josefo@leminal.space 11 points 1 month ago

I call it Quantum superposition Jesus, or Schrödinger's Messiah.

To be fair, the stuff "mandating" persecution are mostly weird interpretations to justify agenda of a later imperial church. When being honest with the author intent and reading stuff in context, it's never the case. And don't get me started with modern "bible study" that ultimately leads to the current state of the far right and zionist apartheid support.

The few things I have parsed from the Quran, I think is not the same case. That thing was straight up written to justify holy war.

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[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Okay my first thought this is Microsoft Windows, and was very confused how people can be seen though a OS. And I later convinced myself maybe this is about Zoom calls.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 25 points 1 month ago

Reminds me if that weird movie the film professor made us watch. Where the guy see the girls ankle because if the wind and then chases her down to rape her. I don't understand wtf this was for but I strongly suggest porn to desensitize if this is the alternative.

[-] visnae@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

The Talibans are soo gay they don't even want to know about the existence of women.

[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Really glad that they solved so many problems that peeping toms are now the biggest problem in the country. That's what's happening here, right?

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 15 points 1 month ago

They all have Android-Smartphones and access to Porn. What does Windows have to do with it?

/s

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[-] hactar42@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago

Seriously, what is the point of trying to control women this way? Or really in any matter? I've never understood it. Are people really that scared and threatened by women? What is the end game for people who do things like this?

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

They're called the Taliban, not the Taliallow

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[-] StopTouchingYourPhone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

To stop women from being able to see out. Isolation is torture. One less escape route.

This shit is terrifying.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Jesus fucking Christ. I hadn't considered that.

[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Are they going to ban women breathing next?

[-] LordBucaq@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I think their point is to kill al women so they have reason to be openly gay or just fuck goats.

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