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[-] SARGE@startrek.website 85 points 1 day ago

I sent this to some friends with my own added text of "Russia: doing a genocide. Israel: totally a-ok, no genocide here, carry on"

One of the people surprised me with a "how can you possibly think Russia isn't trying to genocide Ukraine" and was completely flabbergasted that I was actually suggesting that Israel fucking is.

Even if that's the way you think, I thought my sarcasm was perfectly clear and would be obvious to them what my stance is...

You think you know some people.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Ukraine: 12,340 civilians killed in nearly 3 years

Gaza: 44,786 civilians killed in just over a year

That is 12 times as many. How can ~~you~~ they possibly conclude that Russia is conducting a genocide, but Israel isn't?

(These are confirmed kills, the actual numbers are of course a lot higher in both cases)

[-] SoJB@lemmy.ml 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

This is complete propaganda, fam. The Gaza death toll has exceeded 200,000 according to Palestinian hospitals… and that figure is months-old. Before they started bulldozing the West Bank.

Hospitals in Palestine are very meticulous about counting their dead and keeping records. Being under genocidal occupation for decades where Israelis can just kidnap and kill you for fun will do that to a society.

A certain strain of MAGA really doesn’t like it when you start pointing out basic reality contradicts their entire belief system, careful around these parts!

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 14 hours ago

Yeah I know, I'm just showing that even with official numbers, it's blatantly obvious what Israhell is doing, yet no world leaders are acting on it...

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

How can you they possibly conclude that Russia is conducting a genocide, but Israel isn’t?

Because they are very different conflicts and how each group has been fighting them.

For example, It is well documented that Russia has been engaging in Russification of the areas of Ukraine they occupy. Russia also has a long, long history of engaging in the practice.

https://www.state.gov/russias-filtration-operations-and-forced-relocations/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification

Quick edit:

Also, Ukraine takes steps to shield their population from the fighting. While on the other hand every group that Israel have taken zero action to shield 'their people' from the fighting. While at the same time taking steps to actively endanger civilian lives so they can glorify and use their every death for sympathy.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 14 hours ago

It is well documented that Russia has been engaging in Russification of the areas of Ukraine they occupy.

Do you mean to imply that Israel doesn't do that to the areas they occupy?

To be clear I'm not claiming that Russia is not conducting a genocide. Just that Israel is currently doing it on quite a larger scale. So if there's a genocide in Ukraine then there's definitely one in Gaza.

[-] Devorlon@lemmy.zip 4 points 18 hours ago

I interpreted their comment as both Israel and Russia are committing genocide?

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 16 hours ago

yeah sorry it was directed at the parent commenter's friends. I probably should have made that clear, my bad

[-] Nelots@lemm.ee 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I believe that by "you" they mean other people, not actually the person they were responding to. That is to say, the commenter is agreeing with the previous one, not criticizing them.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 16 hours ago

exactly, thank you :)

[-] tht@social.pwned.page 1 points 16 hours ago

Well le evil russia is evil as always, marvel taught me that

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 16 hours ago

marvel also thought us Nazi's are evil, yet here we are

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 25 points 23 hours ago

One of the people surprised me with a “how can you possibly think Russia isn’t trying to genocide Ukraine” and was completely flabbergasted that I was actually suggesting that Israel fucking is.

Years of brainwashing makes people deny the evidence that they can clearly see

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 6 points 22 hours ago

"Truth is denied those who refuse to seek it with both eyes wide"

[-] locahosr443@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Kiteo, his eyes closed...

[-] Shawdow194@fedia.io 58 points 1 day ago

"Injured 10 in Ukraine"

If you read the report on the Yemen strike it was 11 injuries... just goes to show it's all about how brown your skin is

Free Palestine - Slava Ukraine!

[-] FundMECFSResearch 20 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

If this were happening in another country, say Sudan, we just wouldn’t get a news. bit at all.

The only reason we get news is Israel is involved, and the US is obsessed with enabling Israeli military expansionism.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Clearly the distinction is whether or not the target is an internationally recognized country with borders. You can't genocide a group with a shared identity and no embassies!

/s just in case

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 6 points 23 hours ago

The world we live in.

this post was submitted on 27 Dec 2024
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