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[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 148 points 7 months ago

Im someone who likes to shoot a gun at targets at the range. I find it SO creepy and unnerving when it becomes clear that someone would like to shoot at a person. They don't usually outright say it, but some make it clear in other ways.

[-] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 76 points 7 months ago

Right? Like in my ideal world, guns would be a hobby for weird nerds in the same way fencing is today. The one or two times I have felt like there's even a small chance I may need to use a gun in self defense were terrifying and stressful.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 50 points 7 months ago

There's quite a few hobbies where the other people who meet up to participate as a group as a group are a huge turnoff.

Guns are one of those hobbies for me.

[-] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 22 points 7 months ago

If you like guns as a technology Open Source Defense is a good newsletter imo. They don't delve into politics thankfully but look at how laws are implemented, improving safety at scale etc

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[-] Fermion@feddit.nl 17 points 7 months ago

The "Go ahead and make my day" crowd.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Ew what a horrible, gross thing to say

Heard it a buncha times without ever really hearing it

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Can't find it now, but there was an image of a police target floating around that had the outline of a person holding up a cell phone camera.

Dystopian AF.

[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 75 points 7 months ago

Sounds like my former coworker showing off his new gun on Facebook a few years back, with the post "I can't wait to use this to defend my family."

[-] BioMyth@lemmy.ml 37 points 7 months ago

People like to think that because they own a gun, if they ever got to use it they would be John Wick.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

What they don't realize is that Keanu Reeves does a ton of training, and even occasionally does competitions

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Also, it's a movie, not real life. John wick would have died hundreds of times in those movies if even some of those events were real.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

As someone seriously considering their first firearm purchase, my main thought is "I hope this is a gigantic waste of time and money".

[-] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 54 points 7 months ago

When the average right winger treats guns like toys it's a good sign for every leftist to also own guns.

[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I dont see a problem with owning guns. Its just taken too lightly in the states. To get a gun where im at, you need to get certified - theoretical, physical and psychological tests are done. And no one starts pissing about personal freedoms if they fail these tests. I think you also need to be member of a shooting club. Point is, you need to demonstrate your ability to handle a weapon responsibly. Im not one to confuse correlation with causation but... you dont see many stories of shootings here.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 42 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You would have thought that after January 6th/George Floydd protests, and the lack of justice that followed both, would have finally shown liberals they cannot rely on cops and the "justice" system for personal protection.

Yet here we are.

My body, my choice to protect it the way i wish. Fuck off gun grabbers. Prisoners are forced to give up all their rights and yet they are still not safe in prison. I refuse to be your prisoner.

SocialistRA.org

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

You are seriously arguing that the corruption in our police system means there is no protection? This is objectively false.

I would trust an officer over Ultragagginggunnut any day of the week.

The only prisoners are our school children who have to drill for gun violence in their school. Kids who live in fear that their classmates will kill them because they brought another gun nutters unsecured gun to school.

The prisoners are the wives and partners of every abusive gun owner. Scared to leave because they know that it could cost their lives. You ever been raped at gun point? Yeah, didn't think so.

The prisoners are our society that has to deal with the commercialization of gun ownership and the radicalization of the NRA. Everyday they make our society more unsafe in the name of profits.

The problem isn't guns, it is people like you that think they solve problems. Guns create problems not solve them.

They need to be tightly controlled to keep them away from people who are mentally unwell. People that think they are the "prisoners" fantasizing about defending their rights and overthrowing the government.

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[-] 1ns1p1d@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I choose to protect my body by you not having guns.

Edit: I don't, but I think you can see the error in your argument now.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 7 months ago

I'm sure this sounded convincing in your head.

[-] 1ns1p1d@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's the entire argument in a nutshell yes. A common-sense response to those desires is what separates the countries that don't have much gun crime from yours.

[-] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

There are all kinds of discussions we can have about this, not the least of which is that “no guns” simply isn’t an option in a country with 500 million firearms and no central firearm registry.

But, really, all that stuff is beside the point. Guns are the ultimate equalizer. They equalize the weak and the strong. An 80 year old grandma can defend herself against a 25 year old man using a gun. A suppressed populace can defend themselves against a tyrannical government using guns.

Gun crime has negligible impact on most Americans; we have about half as many firearm homicides as traffic deaths annually.

Philosophically, the gun community feels having that equalizer and balance against tyranny is more important than the impacts of gun crime. Whether or not more gun control will decrease gun crime is irrelevant if a person feels that free firearm access is the more important of the two issues.

Btw, regardless of your views, if you come to the US you should shoot some guns. It’s fun and you’ll be glad you did.

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[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 42 points 7 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Haile_Kifer_and_Nicholas_Brady

TLDR: man lures teens into his home by leaving his house wide open so he could shoot and kill them.

The absolute sicko made audio recordings where he floated about killing them.

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago

This case is horrible, but you have misrepresented it in your comments. The teens broke a window and entered his house with the intention to rob it—it was not left wide open. The recording devices were turned on because he knew they were robbing the house. His first shots to stop the intruders were legal.

Where the crime occurred is that the original shots did not kill them, and then he executed them after they were downed. He also did not report the bodies for a day.

Don’t get me wrong, dude is a psychopathic asshole, but misrepresenting the series of events doesn’t help anybody.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

They weren't, they went over this in the trial.

He became the aggressor when he removed barriers to entry and laid in wait which is a negative defense for self defense.

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago

Wikipedia says they broke a window to enter, and that can be heard on audio—I’m not trying to argue with everything, but how is a closed window that had to be broken for entry not a barrier?

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[-] MonkeyDatabase@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

With the premise the OP presented, I expected something worse than what was actually there. It was still horrible, but the impact was lessened for the reasons you listed.

Interesting how someone can manufacture consent like that by shifting your initial view.

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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

This is the absolute truth. I personally know a guy who pulls out a huge roll of money just to buy a $1 pop from a machine at night. He carries, has been for years. He is trying to get someone to mug him. You know why.

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[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 7 points 7 months ago

"... but if you can't, please make sure they enter unarmed so I can shoot them safely"

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Honestly, I was thinking of this

White Man & Black Man Carry AR-15 Rifles In Open Carry Video Experiment

A recent video posted to YouTube by Willie Upchuck captures the same incident resulting in two distinctively different responses from police. A White gentleman is politely questioned by police, while a Black man is harshly told to get on the ground at gunpoint.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

Every time I see someone say that even the most lenient of gun regulations shouldn't be passed in the U.S., all I can do is picture them at home calling their guns "precious" like Gollum.

[-] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

That's really what it comes down to.

These people want an "excuse" to murder someone.

[-] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 months ago

Yes those people do

And then there's a ton of people that have guns, train when they can and hope they never have to use their skills outside of the range or competitions. We never ever hear about them because they are normal people

[-] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago

The reality is that most of the imagined scenarios which cause a person to want a gun for self defense are rooted in some form of these same delusions. They really are just not as useful in as many situations as people think they are, and these people almost never take far simpler measures to deal with their real threat profile.

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

Lol I have several guns. Some I don't know if I even have ammo for them at all.

I can't imagine the mindset these types of owners have. They are afraid and they want to murder someone. I can't imagine

Hell, the few rifles I have are stored with the firing bolts removed and locked up separately.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 15 points 7 months ago

If I had to kill somebody, I'd be scarred for life. Even if it was clearly in self defense.

Yet I've talked to gun owners who fantasize about getting the drop on a burglar and shooting them dead or something like that. I don't know if they're actually that bloodthirsty or just delusional, but either way it's pretty disturbing.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It’s both.

Our systems have taught them that criminals are worthless disgusting inhuman animals who deserve death, and they’ve never considered the trauma associated with killing someone.

Plenty of veterans lives are ruined by shit like that, and they signed up for it. A little basement dwelling incel couldn’t even comprehend the trauma.

And let’s not forget the statistics of the people who break into your house. It’s likely someone you know. Are you prepared to shoot your friend?

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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago
[-] Iceman@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Anyways, that's how i killed my daughter.

[-] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Every Republican ever be like

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago
[-] BioMyth@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

Way too true, I know too many people who are genuinely like this my brother included. If people have this kind of mindset they shouldn't be allowed to own guns, it is a tragedy waiting to happen.

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Untill then there's lots of schools.

[-] gil2455526@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 7 months ago

Thanks for reminding me of Cyanide and Happiness' Guns short.

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

opens closet

finds box with "Retirement Policy" written on it

yep, safe and sound

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