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NY woman who used to own "NCC-1701" license plate ticketed thousands of dollars because of cars with Star Trek novelty plates going through traffic cameras. (www.live5news.com)

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[-] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 106 points 2 months ago

Part of the confusion may come from states with different license plate rules.

Twenty states require only a rear plate, which means drivers can legally put a novelty or decorative plate on the front. The remaining 30 states require a state-issued plate on both the front and back of the vehicle; New York is one of them.

That may explain why law enforcement would assume a decorative “Star Trek” plate on the front of the car would be a legitimate license plate.

This is one of the stupider "50 countries in a trench coat pretending to be one country" things we have going on. There's no reason not to require plates on both the front and back bumper, especially when it's opening the door for confusion with fake plates on the optional bumper.

[-] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There is also no reason they can't dismiss front plate pictures as unreliable.

[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

So many vehicles in those 20 states don't even have a front plate holder at all because they were either removed by the dealer or didn't come with them in the first place.

[-] Graphy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah I bought a new car last year and it doesn’t even have a mounting spot. it’s not a big deal not having two plates I’m sure one of the other 600 cameras on the drive will get me.

For fun I looked up how I’d have to mount a front plate and it’s just gross. I’d have to drill holes into the front or buy a bracket that’d be lopsided.

[-] marlowe221@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I used two self-tapping sheet metal screws when we moved from a single-plate-on-the-back state to a double-plate state.

There’s no holder but…. That’s pretty much decorative anyway.

[-] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I’d have to drill holes into the front

So what? That's how it's done at the factory too. I am also opposed to front plates but drilling into the bumper is no big deal

[-] Graphy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Because front plates look like shit and Id rather not have to drill into my car just to make it easier on the cops?

That's how it's done at the factory too.

Wow no kidding.

[-] princessnorah 1 points 2 months ago

For fun I looked up how I’d have to mount a front plate and it’s just gross. I’d have to drill holes into the front...

Wow no kidding.

[-] Graphy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Nice to see you really wanted to keep this post going lol

Almost as if there’s a difference between

An assembly line making perfectly centered holes into a part that they’ve yet to finish painting and detailing

versus

my ass crouching down and praying I can get four clean pilot holes in and by some miracle the paint not start flaking

Not to mention what if I put the plate slightly too high and it catches more wind and starts making some annoying ass whistling

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Lol my concern would be it getting enough wind behind it and ripping it right off the bumper.

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

"lopsided" font plate was almost a badge of honor back in the day lol because it meant that you had a front mount intercooler that needed air (and if you did the offset plate without an FMIC you were ridiculed endlessly for being a buffoon)

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago

Or just scrap double plates as an unnecessary and outdated thing.

[-] GluWu@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

No reason? How do you think those plates get made?

[-] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Front plates are bad for aerodynamics/fuel efficiency.

[-] Pieisawesome@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Source? It can’t be a significant amount

[-] princessnorah 2 points 2 months ago

Considering all the massive utes with flat faces in the States, it would have exactly zero effect on those. Like maybe if you own a Ferrari I guess.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah no. The thing here is that some cars are not designed to have a front LP, and you've got me fucked up if you think I'm going to drill holes in a piece of art.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 33 points 2 months ago

Reminds me of the guy with the 'null' license plate:

https://www.wired.com/story/null-license-plate-landed-one-hacker-ticket-hell/

[-] cupcakezealot 14 points 2 months ago

hopefully the rmv learned to sanitize their inputs.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 13 points 2 months ago

Clearly they never spoke to Bobby Tables.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Why would they learn that when they're not the ones suffering the consequences?

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

You tellem Bobby T.

[-] datendefekt@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago

“He had it coming,” says Christopher Null, a journalist

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

Comment validation failed: Name cannot be null.

[-] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Grew up in a state with front plates... Later I moved to a place with only rear plates..

Idk why the front ones are even needed to be honest.. Ease of enforcement?

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Seems reasonable to be able to identify cars from both sides

[-] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

And unreasonable to walk around to read the back plate?

[-] ViolentPacifist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

We need to make it easier for cops to look us up. This is a police state

[-] derGottesknecht@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

How are speed cameras handled in one plate states? In Germany we have front plates so you get the driver and the plate on one picture

[-] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Owner/holder of registration is held liable for any photoradar that is mail based.

Officer based (pulled over) is on whomever is driving the vehicle.

Never seen it be an issue, fault wise

[-] derGottesknecht@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

Ah, you do it via the backside :D

[-] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Yes. On photo, we don't care who is driving. Owner gets the fine.

It's less of a system for correction of bad driving habits and more of a system for renevue generation. Which is shitty

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Don't worry it's the same in Germany. It's also mostly a cash cow.

[-] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I guess it's good that the Bort license plate was already taken.

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 3 points 2 months ago

Excuse me, were you talking to me?

[-] mulcahey@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Same thing happened to the guy with the Ghostbusters license plate

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/ghostbusters-inspired-license-plate-gives-ny-man-toll-headache/5503912/

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