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[-] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

If anything, this should tell us the trolls won.

Or at least have been more successful then they ever should have been.

[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 12 hours ago

5G hadn't been invented yet. They had nothing to worry about back then.

/s

[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago

"We're not gonna make it, are we? Humans I mean" -John Connor- Terminator 2

[-] hangman@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago

“It’s in your nature to destroy yourselves”

-the terminator

[-] orbitz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

I could feel my dread go as I heard that lines over the years, as a young teen? Of course we will we always have, we endure. As a middle aged adult? I'm not so sure we aren't going to shove ourselves back to the cave man era and not enough people will listen to anyone with survival knowledge for the species to survive.

Then I think about how many species that must have and will happen to in this vast universe, so we'll probably be an average result heh in the grand scheme of things that is.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 23 hours ago

Okay, so we're roughly in the middle...Are we on the left or the right of Fermi's bell curve?

[-] arc@lemm.ee 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

RFK jr is going to kill and cripple a lot more kids if he gets the chance to. He'll make pretend polio / measles is eradicated and then somebody will get on a plane where there are cases, and it will spread amongst the unvaxxed and kids will die. When this happens he should be charged with negligent homicide but I doubt that will happen.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago

But he don't care, because:

  • It mostly kills poor people
  • He is vaccinated
  • His kids are vaccinated
  • He couldn't give any less fucks about people if you paid him for it. And he is being paid to not give a fuck about people's lives.
[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 98 points 1 day ago

In 1955... Most people personally knew someone aflicted with polio. They knew how bad it was

[-] SOB_Van_Owen@lemm.ee 50 points 1 day ago

In Appalachia, it was unlikely to not know someone on a vent or dead from Covid, yet...

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

Trust me. I've been along live enough to recognize that if people don't want to believe something, then they won't.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago

Fox News tells you not to believe your eyes, and conservatives trust Fox News more than their own eyes.

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 hours ago

Why wouldn't they trust Fox News over their own eyes? Fox News is the most trusted name in news. At least that's what the viewers get told when they come back from commercial breaks. It's not like Fox would lie to them. They are the most trusted name in news after all.....

Circular logic at its finest.

[-] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

Their final, most essential command.

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 11 points 1 day ago

I knew three people who died from COVID and another after they recovered from COVID, unfortunately unless it's their direct family they would just assume 'theyre just making it all out to be covid'

I assume most people would blame social media for this, but here's my c/unpopularopinions take, it's inevitable with a profit oriented news platform, where they try to scaremonger in both 'we are all going to die' and 'government is putting chips in our bloodstream' directions

In other nations, unless a blunder by government policy, they werent as affected by the anti vaccine shenanigans, even though they were as affected by social media and such

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

And then there's my ex who after COVID took nearly 9 months (!) to get normal use of their lung again. Fuck people who go all "COVID is bullshit".

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

Dude my grandmother died of Covid in August pf 2020, and yet my father and his sister who is a nurse and gave her the dease arge to this day weather covid is bullshit or not. AT HER funeral they argued about mask mandates. Maga brains will watch millions die from covid, and polio and still call it fake news.

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[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 110 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe we're going about this the wrong way. We know what kind of country we live in, a nation of proud, almost patriotic willful ignorance. By design. An laborer ignorant to who is fucking them is a dependable laborer, after all.

So in the spirit of playing to the audience we have, have we tried rebranding the "vaccines" as, and I'm just spitballing here, Freedom Blessings, Robert E Lee Juice, The Joe Rogan Vein Experience, or the Prove You Hate Commies Test?

[-] monotremata@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 day ago

I had a thought along the same lines. I was thinking we should coin the term "immunition," and tell people it was a way to arm your immune system to defend itself. It's not even all that misleading.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Get the NRA (the New Resistance Augmentation) into supporting immunition imports!

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[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 93 points 1 day ago

Quite the difference from how half the US population reacted to a Covid vaccine. The power of political propaganda and social media conspiracy theories.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago

And how those same people are cheering about Captain Brainworm's intentions to discontinue the polio vaccine.

Behold the power of mass lead poisoning. We truly live in the most stupid timeline.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

I think this is just the US returning to its pre super power roots. More and more it seems like the last 80 years were seen exception and now they are returning back to where they were before the world wars.

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[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 135 points 1 day ago

I used to think one of the biggest reasons there's so many antivaxx people is that, because they're so effective, people no longer have the fear of seeing their children in an iron lung, struggling to breathe. Then Covid respirators happened and antivaxx fucks somehow got worse

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

My brother had to be convinced to get the vaccine.

He's legitimately removed (I'm trying to say "re-tar-ded", but apparently it automatically saying "removed." Seriously? We're not allowed to say "re-tar-ded", a completely accurate medical term?) and had to go to a special school because of it.

I think a lot of conservatives fall into this camp, but don't realize it because of how poor social programs are in red states.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 53 points 1 day ago

Most people on this planet are idiots.

[-] excral@feddit.org 30 points 1 day ago

The average person is quite stupid and about half the people are even stupider (sic)

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[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 day ago

It's also why Trump is president-elect currently. People are stupid and are forgetting just how bad things can be.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago

They forgot about 4 years ago.

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[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 15 points 1 day ago

I think social media algorithms have fried people's brains. Imagine we'd ban them, go back to content being kinda diverse and random, without adversaries able to game the system and push massive swaths of propaganda to people. The fact alone that most youths get their news from freaking TicTok of all places...

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Why would anybody bad them, >50% in the US just voted to expand them massively and apply them ~everything. Oh and that money for the masses sucks versus money for grifters only, so I for one welcome Freedom Coin 2025 which rugpulls about 2 weeks after introduction.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You know your local news network has a TikTok right? There’s nothing wrong with news from social media. The problem is that media is unregulated and people are allowed to lie and pass off that information factual.

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 102 points 1 day ago

NGL, I was choked up in my car when I was lined up for my very first COVID jab.

Honestly thought it was over, and the events since have informed much of my cynicism about our species.

[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Polio can't be compared to COVID when you talk about vaccines.

COVID mutates like the flu, meaning a vaccine was never meant to eradicate it. It simply can't.

COVID vaccines still help to prevent severe illness, but it was never a permanent cure.

People were morons, but even if we all did what we were told to do, COVID would still exist.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

My favorite thing about social media is people who argue for no good reason other than to entertain themselves.

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[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 282 points 1 day ago

It is amazing to me how short our memories are as a species. There are people who are still in congress who had polio. There are an estimated 300,000 people still alive in the US who survived polio. Even with that, the nominated head of Health and Human Services wants to do away with the polio vaccine.

I don't know what the problem is. Is it a lack of empathy? Is it willingness to swallow the bait surrounding conspiracy theories? Is it just a lack of education? How did we get to the point where it is even remotely okay for the future head of Heath and Human Services to be against the polio vaccine?

If being pro-polio isn't disqualifying for being the head of HHS, and if he gets confirmed, the U.S. will have very clearly shown that it is in rapid decline. It will have shown that the government is corrupt to its core and is irredeemable.

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 104 points 1 day ago

Is it a lack of empathy?

Yes, it's a disregard for human life

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[-] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Oh how humanity hath fallen

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago

We are entering a stupid age, for which we may never recover.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

On the other hand, half a century earlier-

So I guess the stupid waxes and wanes?

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[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 57 points 1 day ago

RFK and conspiracy thinking right alongside Luigi are ALL symptoms indicating the same problem: a health care system that enriches CEOs at the bankruptcy and death of the masses.

At base it’s like the Hepatitis C cure when it rolled out. A $ amount is put on this cure, only X number of people get it each month, up to a certain $ amount across all claimants, and the rest are SOL. Healthcare itself is like that. We did 18 NICU babies already this month, or we did 32 cardiac cath procedures this month, time to delay, deny, defend.

Wouldn’t it be cool if you could figure a way around needing that healthcare? If you could do 6 simple steps that are entirely under your own power, cheaply or for free, and fix your health on your own? What a dream that would be. This need for health independence is as predictable as a Luigi.

RFK is like a cherry on the shit sundae of our present system. He’s symbolic of the need for something other that we can maybe have more control over. Unfortunately, drinking raw milk has a higher potential of adding more problems.

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