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[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Shit like this is going to happen until us poors remember our place.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago
[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Betteridge’s Law of Headlines. Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word “No.”

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

/thread

No need to scroll further, folks.

[-] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

You know what? Everyone deserves freedom of speech, and threatening healthcare CEOs is not, in my opinion, a breach of it. There is a huge difference between threatening vulnerable minorities and threatening invulnerable minorities.

[-] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Doesn’t a threat have to be credible? As in you can make a threat if you’d like to but it has to actually be a legitimate threat. This isn’t that.

Realistically unless someone says this phrase and has google searches of the CEOs home address, this isn’t a credible threat at all.

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

"Freedom of speech" in US Law means that the government cannot suppress ideas, expressions, or beliefs so long as those ideas or beliefs do not harm specific peoples, nor negatively impact public health and morals, nor negatively impact national security. In some cases, it isn't allowed to promote harm of protected classes including race, religion, skin color, gender, or disability, but in the USA that often becomes a civil matter.

If I had my way we'd be even more strict about it: hate speech would be an actual crime and sexual orientations would also be protected classes.

So a woman quoting a murderer who assassinated an insurance company CEO, directly sending that quote to the insurance company that denied her claim, is not and will never be covered by freedom of speech.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 226 points 3 days ago

trump stole 500 million dollars from the state of ny... rapists spend less than a decade

this is a warning to poor people

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 55 points 3 days ago

Reminds me of the case way back in the day with someone who pirated music getting insane fines and how it was juxtaposed with the relatively small settlement an airline had to pay when its negligence actually killed people.

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[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago

This reminds me of Minority Report. Arrested by the pre-crime unit.

Guilty without the crime actually being committed.

[-] bigpapasmurf12@lemm.ee 41 points 3 days ago

She absolutely does not deserve that. Isn't America the home of free speech? I guess not for the plebs!

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 96 points 3 days ago

She would have never been able to be charged before the patriot act. No weapons, no capacity to act on them, vague and unspecific. Its crazy how our freedoms have been eroded and how many folks seem to think thats just fine and dandy.

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 days ago

I’ll never understand how people are ok with limiting other people’s freedom based on “what if”.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Indeed, when George unleashed that shit, Patriot Act, I told everyone we are one step closer to forming the SS or NKVD. Once again, we have Mango Mussolini with his merry band of racist thugs.

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[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 161 points 3 days ago

I hope this case gets some attention too. This is some ginned up bullshit. We can’t let them stomp us into silence.

I’m not celebrating a murder, this is some fucked up shit in many dimensions and I would prefer a different timeline.

But remember we are not children who need to bow our heads and take our scolding.

For-profit insurance companies are liable for the deaths they cause. Full stop.

How’s that for moral clarity?

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[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 19 points 2 days ago

No, the executives, BoD and major investors do.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago

We should erect a giant bronze statue of Luigi. Put it in a road right near UHC's headquarters in Minnesota. Make them all drive past it each and every day on the way to work.

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[-] AprilShowers 36 points 3 days ago
[-] mokus 13 points 3 days ago

Free speech is for nazis, as far as I can tell

[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 days ago

In the freezer, next to the peaches.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago
[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

She was released and all charges dropped. This was a silly farce by the judge and prosecutors from the jump

[-] Birdie@thelemmy.club 23 points 3 days ago

I don't think that's right. She's been released on bond to house arrest; the charges still stand.

[-] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 78 points 3 days ago

Two wrongs don’t make a right. She could have said DDD without “you people are next.”

Having said that, if we’re really judging people, and corporations are people, why isn’t the denial of health care seen as manslaughter? 70 people pass every day due to the lack of medical care in America. We have worse outcomes, shorter average life than other civilized countries.

When is a corporation sued for murder & sent to jail? I know it sounds crazy, but that’s the point. These systems aren’t making sense. They lack humanity. This is a bad, morally bankrupt system. Older Americans loves their Medicare: that’s socialism.

I’m so sick of this shit.

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[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago

When a woman calls the cops because her abusive SO threatened to kill her, they can't do anything about it.

[-] garretble@lemmy.world 88 points 3 days ago

I saw someone else say this, but I hope they start rounding up the incels on Twitter saying “your body, my choice” as credible rape threats if what this woman said is going to be litigated with such fervor.

[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 47 points 3 days ago

Rape doesn’t take money from the rich and is therefore not a crime.

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[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Did she say she was running for the presidency? Because in that case, she could take someone out on main street and she could grab them by the pussy too and nobody would say anything.

She should have tried to purchase a president or maybe purchase the presidency itself for a self pardon.

Joe should pardon her wtf Joe!

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Jury Nullification is my right.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The thing about Jury Nullification is that you have to make it through the majority of a trial. 97-98% of criminal cases (in the U.S.) end in a plea deal without ever going to trial.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

The US justice system is f'ed up.

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[-] LiamTheBox@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

It's called wrong thinking from the book 1984

[-] twistypencil@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

Prosecutors throw the book at people, sentences get reduced by dropping things, aclu better get on this and keep her from getting a stupid plea deal, and fight for free speech

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[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago

Meanwhile customer service agents have been hearing much worse than this for decades, actual direct threats not vague comments, and no one ever gave a shit before.

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[-] r4dhexe@lemm.ee 22 points 3 days ago

Free slave for the state of Florida. I mean, they might let her go in a few months, but slam that 15 years jail stay bill right on her. You really effed up on the "land of the free" over there.

That "when they came for the ..." had already happened. Years ago. Think on that. SL

[-] WinstonChurchillin@lemmy.cafe 25 points 3 days ago

No, but they are going to throw the book at potential copycats to deincentivise others. First of many, I'm sure.

[-] toast@retrolemmy.com 27 points 3 days ago

So, don't make empty threats?

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[-] SquishMallow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

This is so sad

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