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Summary

Trump’s team is considering abolishing key banking regulators, including the FDIC and OCC, with plans to consolidate their functions under the Treasury Department.

Critics warn this could undermine public trust in banking, weaken deposit insurance protections, and risk another financial crisis.

The FDIC, established during the Great Depression, played a crucial role in managing the 2023 banking crisis.

Trump allies, backed by financial industry donors, are also targeting other consumer protections, reflecting sweeping deregulatory ambitions tied to Project 2025’s proposals.

Experts fear these moves could destabilize the economy.

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[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 99 points 2 months ago
[-] The_v@lemmy.world 70 points 2 months ago

The 2020's are looking to end like the 1920's.

Not a recession, but a massive depression.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago

massive depression

Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ahead of the curve on this one.

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[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

It's gonna be baaaaad.

[-] Heikki@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago

Trump (2 weeks after everything all the experts said would happen happens): Noun one knew how complicated banking is... my uncle, the MIT professor; huege brain was surprised this happened. An MIT professor didn't think this could happen; speaking of things that happen, Batron... where is Batron? Where is, possibly, my "favorite" son? The crypto visionary. Let me tell you about the importance of crypto. Did you know this stuff is mined? Like from the earth? More valuable than water it is. Looking to back the usd by crypto and then by water. It's free it just drops from the sky like "Bing, Bing Bing bing" might as well as be kaching!!

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

I fucking hate that what you wrote could be credibly said by him. I mean except how eloquently you put it lol

[-] inkrifle@lemmy.world 75 points 2 months ago

Wasn't lack of regulation what caused the 2008 recession?

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 40 points 2 months ago

And supply-side-God willing, we can get back to there.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 13 points 2 months ago

Look, some of us are going to make the sacrifice to supply-side-God. We gotta do everything to help the rich get richer. Cause fuck us plebs.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I think you misspelled "Poor people trying to live above their divinely ordained station!"

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[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

Yes but American voters don't give a shit.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They found a way to blame it all on the poorz. Oh, and POC.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Sort of. 2008 happened because new financial products called CDOs allowed shit loans to be turned into gold, and people insured that gold.

More regulation may have helped, but there was a very specific cause.

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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago

They don't care if they tank the dollar, it will make the assets in the Strategic Dogecoin Reserve that much more valuable.

[-] rishado@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago

Pretty sure the plan is to actively tank the dollar

[-] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 16 points 2 months ago

The question is, how do you bet against the US Economy and for whatever selfish fuckhead of a plan they have.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago

As the person said below, move your currency out of the US dollar into something like gold or buy a house with a 30-year mortgage because you are basically shorting the dollar for a hard, tangible asset.

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[-] rishado@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Well look, I'm not advocating for this coming government nor am I an economic expert. But in a vacuum one could impose tariffs on imported goods, tank the cost of labor in your own country, and force manufacturing back here, right? And in the long run, would be beneficial for local manufacturing instead of being so dependent on China. If it weren't for the local oligarchy here I'd say it's even a tough but fair plan for the economy. Knowing what we know, things will only get harder with no observable benefit for the working class as whatever improvement we manage to make will be sucked away by the ruling class. But the plan isn't horseshit in a vacuum. Someone please feel free to tell me why I'm completely wrong as I'm not really speaking with too much conviction tbh

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

And in the long run, would be beneficial for local manufacturing instead of being so dependent on China....Knowing what we know, things will only get harder with no observable benefit for the working class

...and...

Someone please feel free to tell me why I’m completely wrong as I’m not really speaking with too much conviction tbh

Those tariffs would destroy our $1.95 trillion in exports from the USA because many of those are finished goods with input materials imported (and now tariffed to high heaven). source

Modern manufacturing doesn't depend on hundreds of thousands of human bodies anymore. New manufacturing factories would be highly automated and only employ a tiny fraction of the now unemployed workforce to produce the same amount of goods as in years past.

"From 1960 to today, American steel mills have decreased from an average of 700,000 workers to just 83,000. And within the last 40 years, the productivity of labor has increased more than five times from approximately 10 man-hours per finished ton to under 2." source

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

So we're basically forfeiting a bunch of jobs related to and effected by procuring overseas input materials to gain a small fraction of manufacturing jobs? That just sounds like it will damage the economy and not bring it back up.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Exactly why everyone with a brain has been shouting that this is the worst possible idea.

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[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago

Not gonna lie. If the FDIC goes, I withdraw immediately.

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

And do what? It's literally not possible to live without a bank account any more. They've actively destroyed cash as a means of payment

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

If it looks like it's on its way out soon I put a run on that bank like it's dollar store pantihose

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

Didn't a whole silicon valley bank just wipe out its customers savings by not being fdic insured

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

https://www.forbes.com/sites/simonmoore/2023/03/12/why-deposit-insurance-didnt-help-silicon-valley-bank/

Apparently not. They managed to set themselves up in such a way that caused the failure, but the majority of depositors had over the $250,000 cap on FDIC insured assets.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Just where the fuck will people do their banking without FDIC?

I saw that asshat Andreesen lying his fucking ass off on Rogan about how the poor little tweedums on the right were being "debanked" because of "free speech", but not anyone else.

Meanwhile, what the hell would you call something like this?

The right has people within it that are just so insane that I really do think some would withdrawal their money from the bank, and set all their own cash on fire if they thought it would pwn teh libz.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 13 points 2 months ago

A MAGAt would eat his own shit if he knew a WoKe LibRuL would have to smell it

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[-] greyfox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Credit unions use the NCUA instead of FDIC. So if they don't go after that as well there are still some options.

[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

I would just avoid ALL US banks. Canada has CDIC and our future Trumpian PM hasn't been paid yet to kill it.

US stores don't care where the money comes from so that could be an option.

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[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

2029 looking a lot like 1929.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

That's not a recession. That's a depression

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 months ago

And of course, his pick for secretary of the treasury who would oversee all regulations of the stock market is a hedge fund billionaire 🤦🤬

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Should I start stuffing my money under my mattress right now?

[-] JPAKx4 17 points 2 months ago

If rapid inflation occurs, then no (invest in non-monetary assets). If a bank run occurs then yes. Both could definitely happen if they can't manage to cut trillions of dollars of spending but further cut corporate taxes while deregulating banks and consumer protections. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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[-] abbiistabbii 19 points 2 months ago

Jesus fucking Christ on a stick CAN WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE YEAR WHERE THERE ISN'T SOME MAJOR FIXKING BULLSHIT. 😡

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 18 points 2 months ago

Destabilize?

No, this is far worse. Big banks will just take your money. Credit Unions? I have no fucking idea.

I also can't just walk into my bank and pull out $10k without raising all sorts of questions and concerns.

Jesus fuck.

[-] Odd_so_Star_so_Odd@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

When gambling on the failure of stocks is allowed you get stupid people trying to tear the whole thing down over a quick buck smh.

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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago

Looks like a bank run is back on the menu, bois!

[-] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

I can walk into a bank and get approved to a loan with payments equal to 70% of my income. Regulations are already criminally absent.

[-] subiacOSB@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

Might as well take a gamble and put all my money in bitcoin if it’s not FDIC insured

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[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago

There was a 2023 banking crisis?

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 23 points 2 months ago

Some Silicon Valley investor bank failed IIRC, there were a couple of bank runs?

Lot of shit happened last year, I barely remember.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Unless Republicans choose to abolish the filibuster, they can't do it. Takes 60 votes in the Senate.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago
[-] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I don't think even the most annoyingly fake- progressive Democrat is gonna vote to abolish the FDIC. I'm not even convinced that every republican would do so.

[-] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Ah from here up north this is just watching slow motion Vehicular manslaughter.

[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Time to reap the whirlwind

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Everybody got a mattress?

I also hear coin hoards were once popular.

Of course, you could just invest in cheese.

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