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[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 116 points 3 months ago

Whenever I think about the diamond market I think about the episode of the Twilight Zone where gold becomes worthless in the future because it's manufacturable.

As evidence by the diamond market, even if we could manufacture gold (somehow) even higher in quality than the purest gold available naturally, people would still want the, objectively worse, natural stuff, because for some reason the human rights violations that go into getting it makes it more valuable.

TL;DR: it's the child labor that makes it special

[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Hehe yeah, "Sure, you could buy perfect diamonds grown in lab conditions that are way prettier than anything we could offer for way cheaper, or you could buy our authentically dirty or broken diamonds to -prove- you paid way more money to anyone that looks close enough to notice. Won't they be jealous of how rich you were".

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

The special ingredient is human suffering.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Yeah it's the same as the people who are being oppressed by the corporatocracy voting for an oppressor because they just want to feel powerful by stepping on someone else. The "Slugs for Salt" group doesn't care if they are salted as long as the snails beneath them get salted and they get to feel like it's them doing the salting.

[-] brian@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

I think one of the most common talking points against lab grown is that they are too perfect. "It's the imperfections that are beautiful" or something like that.

[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

That sentiment they manufactured is exactly what I was, apparently inexpertly, lampooning.

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 6 points 3 months ago

In a certain way I even agree with the sentiment. Of the crystals I have grown myself, the perfect ones are kinda nice, but do look fake/more like plastic. Those that are nearly perfect but have visible impurities (not to much, not to little) are far more visually pleasing to me.

The big BUT is that this in no way is a reason to support blood diamonds. If aesthetic is more worthy to you than human rights, than you are a villain, it's that simple.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, as of aesthetic imperfections can't be grown in a lab.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago

You can make diamonds. The diamond companies convinced everyone they were inferior.

I do think the western world likes to support child labor. While else would your iPhone be so expensive? It is carefully assembled by child hands.

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[-] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 61 points 3 months ago

Don’t marry women too materialistic to accept this, loving diamonds is a big red flag imo

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago

Meh, I wouldn't say that, but loving diamonds after learning how that market works and the bullshit around it? Definitely an orange flag

[-] Hazor@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Eh, I'm not sure I would say that. Someone can love/appr ciate and want something even knowing that procuring the thing has ethical problems. Desiring something isn't the same as being okay with the problems that come with acquiring it. It's the being okay with procuring a diamond despite the ethical problems and bullshit that would be a massive red flag to me.

For myself, I'd be having serious second thoughts about a relationship with a person who felt an expensive ring was somehow necessary. But merely wanting it, particularly if out of a sense of tradition or symbolism rather than as some silly signal of wealth, wouldn't perturb me.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

All this comment chain is telling me that everyone in this chain above me has a woman they want to redeem for her love of something questionable, lol. Your morals are soft cuz she gets you hard :p

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[-] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago

https://diamondssuck.com/

Moissanite ftw

[-] FundMECFSResearch 11 points 3 months ago

Those semi rare gems are the best.

As pretty as the ruby/diamond/emrald stones, but without the absurd costs.

[-] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Moissanite has better sparkle and fire than diamond. It literally looks better! And as the article says, it’s mostly about the setting more than the stone

[-] BruceLee@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

Most of people are happy with shiny thing that won't start to look cheap as they wear off. We can't all of us be jeweler after all.

[-] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

Moissanite is the absolute best.

[-] swab148@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

I bought my mom two sets of moissanite jewelry for generic winter holiday times this year! Matching necklace and earrings!

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago

Moissanite is extra sparkly compared to diamonds too

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago

Tough shit she still wants that drill bit for Christmas

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Oh she'll get drilled for a bit, that's for sure

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 36 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Am girl

Just grow em in a lab. Dirt diamonds are for boomers.

[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 9 points 3 months ago

If you really love me, you’ll cut off a pound of flesh, cremate it, and use the ashes to make a diamond.

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

I don't think she does.

[-] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 23 points 3 months ago

I took my now wife window shopping for rings when we were getting close to engagement time so that I'd know what she would want. It was clear that the answer was gonna be yes no matter what, but I knew she'd have a ring preference anyway. She saw prices and explicitly said that she'd like white sapphire on sterling silver. I found a bridal set that she adores which very much did not cost a month or two of salary.

Because we didn't blow a ton of money on engagement/wedding shit, we've had much more resources to support the marriage itself. I've heard of regular everyday people spending $3-4k on a fucking ring. We spent 9 days in a few different places in Spain for about that cost instead lol.

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[-] trigg@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Just to be devil's advocate.

Sky diamonds

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 11 points 3 months ago

This is an act of terrorism against OP's wallet

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[-] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 months ago

Exactly, just get her some lab grown ones. She won't know the difference. It's okay even if she does, because this website sells them pretty well.

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[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 18 points 3 months ago

There are a lot of cool minerals out there that don't make you go bankrupt if you purchase them.

[-] ThermonuclearCactus 17 points 3 months ago

"But diamonds are forever!" No they're not, in fact, they're actually flammable. *

*in an environment of pure oxygen

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago

Someone watched NileRed

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

"ill buy you a diamond if you buy me an equally-expensive gaming pc"

"never mind"

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[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 14 points 3 months ago

looks sadly at his angle grinder blade for concrete

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 12 points 3 months ago

In case anyone needs to hear it: big red flag for lots of reasons. Don’t put yourself through a relationship like that. Find someone who wants you for you.

[-] kn33@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Luckily my girlfriend is on board with this

[-] shani66@ani.social 9 points 3 months ago

Honestly, they are ugly too. Get a real stone, like charoite or iolite. Oh, maybe moonstone. Anything but basic bitch clear rock.

[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

Basic bitches: Can use their murder rock to scratch glass, I guess.

Bad bitches: Can evolve any Clefairy they come across at a moments notice.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Can't I just punch myself in the face to demonstrate my love and call it a proposal instead?

Use that money to improve the honeymoon instead of an artificially expensive rock?

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

No, because the wealth and status on display is exactly the point for some women. Especially with social media it becomes a competition to get the most. It's honestly not that far from how some men really like to show off their expensive car as a sign of success.

[-] TheSealStartedIt@feddit.org 7 points 3 months ago

There are synthetic diamonds, also used as jewelry.

[-] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Get her welsh gold instead

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[-] burgersc12@mander.xyz 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just buy the fucking fake diamonds 90% the same, but less fucking slave labor and 1/100th of the price

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago

They are actually better as they are more pure

[-] hungryphrog 4 points 3 months ago

They are shiny though. Get some lab-grown ones.

[-] BruceLee@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

You could convincing her well if enough gold carat. Plenty of ways to waste your money on materialism or invest into your family finance futur (depending how you see it.)

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