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A grainy image of his face drew comparisons to Hollywood heartthrobs. A jacket similar to the one he’s wearing on wanted posters is reportedly flying off the shelves. And the words written on the bullets he used to kill a man in cold blood on a sidewalk on Wednesday have become, for some people, a rallying cry.

Four days after a gunman assassinated a top health insurance executive in Midtown Manhattan and vanished, the unidentified suspect has, in some quarters, been venerated as something approaching a folk hero.

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 212 points 4 months ago

In grim twist, corporate media tries to guilt people out of having hope

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

Three incident in the last 4 years where billionaires owned media got caught lying. Covid, Gaza, and now this. In all of these they didnt gave shit about innocent people dying, finding excuses and twisting words to gaslight people.

[-] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 152 points 4 months ago

What's grim about it? Of course people are gonna look kindly upon someone who kills a mass murderer.

[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 121 points 4 months ago

I have a right-wing neighbor who voted Trump three times, says climate change is a hoax, and hates me for sometimes wearing a tie-dye jacket, but he says with a grin all over his face, "Did you hear about that insurance CEO who got shot dead?" and he laughs and laughs and gives me a thumbs-up.

America stands united.

[-] Notorious_handholder@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Funnily enough the death of a United Health Care CEO has United Americans in a feeling of well deserved schadenfreude.

[-] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago

My trump-loving in-laws are the same. Voted 3 times for shitler, but they're thrilled about this. It's one thing in the news that we can discuss.

[-] Benjaben@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago

A few more of these and we'll all really see how much we actually agree with one another, and how much the split and hate is manufactured.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 85 points 4 months ago

Someone killing thousands through corporate policies: Not grim.

Someone killing that person: Grim.

/s

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 months ago

Yeah fuck the title of this article. What a shit way to introduce bias.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 80 points 4 months ago

In a report this week, the institute found that of the top 10 most-engaged posts on X about the shooting on Wednesday, six “either expressed explicit or implicit support for the killing or denigrated the victim.” The dynamic is similar to the discourse that often emerges after a mass shooting on websites like 4chan and 8chan, where perpetrators of extreme violence become memes themselves, Mr. Goldenberg said, “but what’s disturbing about this is it’s mainstream.”

Get fucked neo-liberal media. What an isane gaslighting comparision. This was a targeted assasination. Are you now afraid that people direct their anger at the sources of it, rather than the peasants killing each other?

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[-] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 74 points 4 months ago

Grim? WTF? The dude is a hero.

We need a French solution to the oligarchy problem and this guy moved us in the right direction.

He's a god damn hero.

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

May I remind you Trump got re-elected? The US chose for more money to mega corps and the ultra rich. There is no dictatorship in the US (yet), this system is by choice. Anyone who wanted to create a more social support system including better healthcare is painted as a communist, a nazi and as corrupt and en masse people vote for the person to make a fucked up system even worse. The US doesn't need a French solution, the US needs to vote differently when they don't like this shit. When you vote for oligarchs, you get oligarchs.

[-] ysjet@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

Trump got elected because the richest man in the world spent a quarter of a billion dollars on his campaign, and that has tangible results.

[-] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

For some but for a lot, they are racist and sexist. Most people don't even understand what their candidate stands for.

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[-] beansbeansbeans@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago

The only grim aspect is how much time, resources, and energy the NYPD has wasted trying to solve this. Statistically, there have been other murders since this one. They should move on and add this to their "unsolved" pile.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 4 months ago

"We don't care when they're poor." -NYPD

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[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 49 points 4 months ago

I don't know why they don't just add it to the unsolved pile like all the other murders they see?

[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 48 points 4 months ago

Cops have long had the Punisher.

Now big Insurance has The Adjuster.

[-] nick@midwest.social 48 points 4 months ago

Where’s the twist? This is a dumb headline.

Turns out some people can only be pushed so far before they resort to violence.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Is it a twist if nobody is surprised?

Perhaps this should actually read "in grim reality, most see suspect in C.E.O. Killing as Hero or Heartthrob".

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 months ago

The number one react on the UHC Facebook announcement about it is the crying laughing emoji. The people have spoken.

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[-] Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago

He's not only hot; he's making an example out of cruel millionaires .. millionaires who prefer money and let people die, without ANY hesitation. So yeah, it's not like being attracted to Dahmer, it's more like being attracted to Katniss Everdeen.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 41 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Some? I've yet to find anyone not on his side, the most I can find are people sarcastically saying "Oh no, won't someone please catch him..."

What were the words written on the bullets.

Thing is, if they don't catch him, it will inspire a copycat to repeat his tactics.

And I honestly can't even bring myself to say it's a bad thing; this gunman killed a glorified serial killer, a man who is paid to find people buying his product in order to get help for fatal yet curable illnesses, and kill them in order to save costs.

Violence is wrong and should only be used as a last resort, but well, given the circumstances it's hard for me to lose sleep at night....

I legally cannot and will not advocate violence, I stress this, I AM NOT ADVOCATING VIOLENCE, IF YOU'RE PLANNING YOUR OWN VIOLENT ACT I BEG YOU TO RECONSIDER! Everyone out there has at least one other person who loves them, and most high profile violent acts backfire horribly on the perpetrator.

But I will say this. Some men can only be pushed so far until they're at the edge, then they'll grab onto the person who put them there so at least they fall together... And many MANY men are at the edges.

"Those who make peaceful resolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 21 points 4 months ago

Deny. Defend. Depose.

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[-] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago

I'd say it's grimmer that some people feel sorry for the CEO.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

“It’s being framed as some opening blow in a broader class war..."

That's what many of us are hoping for. But this author, and nearly all other mainstream news outlets can't understand that. They can't understand why we would want a class war, why would we want something so disruptive, so destabilizing, so potentially destructive? It baffles and disturbs them, but that's because they can't, or won't, see the harm being done by the current system. They are blind to the harms of late capitalism, willfully.

For many of us, the problems go much deeper than a few greedy and unethical CEOs, it's the system. The inhumanity of health insurance providers is just a very egregious and obvious tip of the iceberg. This CEO wasn't just some exceptionally bad guy, he was a product of the system. He'll be replaced by another one of thousands and thousands of people who come out of our business or economic schools, and who would have run United Healthcare the same way he did. The problem is a system in which the private profits of a relative few are prioritized over all else; over human well being, and over sustainability and environmental protection. Many of us believe that that system must be abolished and replaced. We don't want war, but if war is what's necessary to destroy this unsustainable and inhumane system, then so be it.

[-] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 37 points 4 months ago

The pearl clutching from the bourgeois is becoming a bit annoying.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

You drive people to desperation and this is the result. What the fuck else could anyone expect?

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Right?

When your business model is an engine that creates desperate people with nothing to lose, you have to expect something like this.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 31 points 4 months ago

Reality is grim. The twist is romantic.

[-] RedirectDeposit@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If they ever catch the suspect, he's going to have a hell of a defense fund. That's probably why the cops will end up killing him on sight.

[-] uberdroog@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

Grim twist? Who is pushing this narrative? Sounds like corporate media might not be able to keep this cat in the bag.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

"it's being framed as some opening blow in a broader class war"

I mean the guy did hit the nail on the head. The elite have done so much for so long to keep the masses divided to prevent a class war. The sane thing would be for private companies, especially the healthcare insurance industry, to immediately change their policies before it gets worse.

The pressure has been rising for a long time, and something gave a few days ago. Cats already out of the bag.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 25 points 4 months ago

Engels:

When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence – knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains.

Start posting this Wikipedia page y’all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_murder This shit has needed to be taken seriously for ages and this might be the context where that starts taking greater hold.

[-] irish_link@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

I’m a 40 year old straight dude with two kids and a wife. I think that guy is a freaking heartthrob! I mean first look at him, he good looking. I always rate people on how they look first but more importantly how they act second. And just look how this guy acted.

[-] malloc@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

I don’t see assassin as “hero” or “heartthrob”.

Our high trust society has eroded due to massive corruption at the highest level (SCOTUS popularity/trust plummeted) , late stage capitalism and catering to billionaires, and incompetent politicians. The incoming administration will be without a doubt no help in this aspect.

The assassin has unfortunately become “necessary”. I don’t praise his actions but I understand why this person decided to take it into their own hands (ie, family or loved one impacted by “deny, delay, defend” policies).

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[-] mhague@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Google, show me "CEO assassination rule34"

[-] Pheonixdown@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago

"A desperate disease requires a dangerous remedy." ~ Guy Fawkes

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Doesn't seem all that Grim to me

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[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 18 points 4 months ago

Ok but I ain’t even gay and I wanna fuck this man.

[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

A twist?! Stupid sexy hitman

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago
[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In an alternate universe, Joker is considered a hero because he killed the criminal and the corrupt while Batman allowed them to live. Joker, a hero against the system, the vigilante who is a vigilante and not just status quo, the vigilante the city needed but not the one it deserved. The Joker movie could set a pretty sweet alternate universe.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago

Childhood is when you idolize Batman, adulthood is when you realize that cheese is very expensive.

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[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

It's been almost a week. And every day they don't catch him the lower their chances. I'm starting to have hope they'll never catch him.

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[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 11 points 4 months ago

Grim twist will be the name of my next murderhobo rpg character

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