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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

IDK, but I more often had issues with installing apps to Linux than to Windows, usually dependency-hell related ones, but once I had trouble enabling snap on Linux Mint.

[-] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago

If you're enabling Snap on Mint, you might as well install Ubuntu.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

but once I had trouble enabling snap on Linux Mint.

Seems like a win

[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I think mixing app and system dependencies is a bad idea, and Linux desktop is still fighting that.

When all the apps on a consumer laptop is expected to depend on the same dependencies, the system likely run into dependency hell, which means many apps needs to be downgraded in order to keep older apps working.

This mixture of system dependency and app dependency also prevents users to use the the latest version of an app on a hyper stable base system.

Flatpak basically aim to solve this problem, where each app chooses their own dependencies, so you don't need to downgrade all your app just because one app depends on python 2.7.

[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 19 points 14 hours ago

I can't remember the last time I got a DLL error on my Windows laptop, honestly. I don't think that's ever happened on my current computer.

[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

The last time I got a DLL error was back in Windows 98 ffs.

[-] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

I got one on my work laptop this week. It's controlled by a shitty management software that is used by our IT, but still.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

I got this when I didn't have the correct .NET installed

[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago

Been using Linux off and on since 2003-ish. I remember the days of having to compile applications and having to download various dependencies. Linux now is so streamlined and easy. Minus gentoo.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 25 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Edge (Microsoft browser) thinks the Microsoft Teams exe installer FROM MICROSOFT SERVER is malware, no joke.

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 25 points 20 hours ago
[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 8 points 18 hours ago

I like how you specified "Microsoft browser" 😏

[-] drhoopoe@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 20 hours ago

Broken clock and all that

This was made by someone who has never used either

[-] Zink@programming.dev 14 points 17 hours ago

Eh, Windows complaints tend to get pretty hyperbolic much of the time. It’s slow and annoying but I’ve always worked with it

But the description of the Linux update process matches my experience with mint, pretty much. I even use the GUI update utility because it will put a little icon in the bottom corner of the screen. It’s quick even if I’m using a program that’s going an update, and if the kernel gets updated it’s just like “hey remember to reboot buddy!”

[-] needanke@feddit.org 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Besides missing dependencies or repositories for more nice software this kinda closely matches my experience though.

(Ignoring winget, becaust it is not really the mainstream way to install windows software)

What is your specific issue with this?

[-] lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 12 points 22 hours ago

Mostly that this hasn't been my experience with Windows for like 20 years.

They might as well bitch about dropping their punch cards.

[-] needanke@feddit.org 13 points 21 hours ago

I still (have to) download scetchy executables on Windows when I want to install most programms, while on debian I can install most programs via apt and a few repositories. Even when it's not a standard repo I still prefer it over random executables because while the security is just as bad at least I get updates without having to open the program itself.

But what resonated with me most have been the restarts for updates. Happened way to often that I wanted to stop working but cant just shut down windows without updates and the accompanying reboots. (If I don't check up in between to decrypt the disk on startups it'll just sit there and run out the battery and I have to do the restarts on the next workday). On debian I just klick the power button, it hibernates (or I shut it down if I'm in the mood) and os updates are completely seperate from that.

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 11 points 21 hours ago

What sketchy executables are you downloading?

What makes downloading steam from valve more sketchy than allowing a Linux repo to run arbitrary code as root on your machine for every single one of thousands of pieces of software maintained by strangers?

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

I remember going to source forge to download MPC-BE

Later found out that they were adding adware to executables

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[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 17 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

What the actual fuck are you smoking?

At least update this meme to the 2010s if you won't go to the 2020s

[-] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 4 points 17 hours ago

i love when i need to search for dll files

[-] ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 day ago

I haven't had a DLL issue in Windows in like 20 years.

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[-] tsugu@slrpnk.net 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Open terminal

See whether the app is in my distro's repos, flathub, or snapcraft (It's not)

Go on the internet, search up the app's name

Download the AppImage (might be a virus)

LibFuse2 is not installed (fuck me)

Install LibFuse2

Install Gearlever to integrate AppImage into my desktop

I can finally launch the app

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[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 97 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Let’s not cherrypick scenarios to try and pretend Linux is easier than Windows. Most normal people are nervous interacting with a GUI pop-up that gives them two options, never mind putting them into a terminal window where they could seriously fuck up their machine. What about clicking the download link on a webpage, clicking next a few times and having them software on your machine, compared to having to build something from GitHub (how many people here have never had to do that?).

[-] Avatar_of_Self@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Compiling from GitHub is cherry picking the worst case especially for "most normal people" and frankly they should be using the software store GUI in their DE to install and update software with nice easy buttons to click.

Frankly software management for a normal person generally is easier on Linux than it is on Windows for stuff made to run on Linux.

But don't worry someone will respond with nvidia's shitty proprietary drivers.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Most normal people only ever use the browser. Even image or video editing is niche for the average person

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[-] dan@upvote.au 6 points 20 hours ago

WinGet: Am I a joke to you?

[-] Fashim@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago
[-] brianary@startrek.website 9 points 20 hours ago

WinGet, choco, scoop, &c, they all have strengths and weaknesses, which is why I had to write this: https://github.com/brianary/scripts/blob/main/Update-Everything.ps1

It's also why I use Linux at home.

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