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[-] jerakor@startrek.website 319 points 4 months ago

Some sort of camp to help ADHD folks work on their concentration?

[-] distantsounds@lemmy.world 95 points 4 months ago

Laughed too hard at this. It’s a Focus Group!!!

[-] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago

call it a focus village or soemthing

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I imagine a terrible, awful future Forest Gump remake.

“They had these camps that helped folks with their concentration or something like that. They said I was a shine-ning example, so I got to meet the president of the United States, again.”

“They tell me this guy is the best example. Got treated, got rich in shrimp. What a guy! Our camps are great, the best camps in all the world.”

Camera pans to Trump shaking hands with Kim Jong Un.

“In Korea, everybody got these pic-tures of their leader on the wall. We got those in Alabama too.”

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[-] yarr@feddit.nl 171 points 4 months ago

I fucking HATE these clickbait headlines. Read the dang article and look at the quotes:

"I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities," he said during the broadcast. (emphasis added)

RFK is a total whackjob, but it's pretty clear he's talking about some kind of voluntary "farm therapy" (which probably isn't demonstrably effective anyway) and not a concentration camp.

PLEASE we got enough bombastic language and clickbait over the Biden years. There are PLENTY of things wrong with the actual quote above without taking us into clickbait territory.

Let's criticize him on the grounds of being scientific but proposing very un-scientific actions. Let's criticize him for proposing ineffective solutions, but please, focus on his ACTUAL statement instead of trying to fluff it into some goddamn headline.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 months ago

Time to add futurism.com to my block list. What a useless rag.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 13 points 4 months ago

100% They are part of the death of journalism. Inaccurate, hyped headlines that disagree with the body of the article. Designed to get "engagement" and not to inform. Fuck them.

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

can we report this sort of thing here? downvoting has never worked.

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[-] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Although these wellness farms might seem like a worthwhile idea on paper, there are plenty of ways these kinds of systems could be rife with abuse. It's also unclear how different they would really be from the rehabilitation facilities that already exist across the country, and RFK's claims that most of the issues come down to not eating organic food also don't seem to be based on hard science.

https://www.distractify.com/p/rfk-wellness-farms

Means well but it sounds here like they'll be volunteering at a farm for 3-4 uears, wasting their time

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh yeah... "volunteering."

And for "as much time as they need."

Doesn't seem ominous at all from a guy with a brainworm in a government that's being jizzed on by the whole for-profit-prison industry. I'm sure they'll have no interest in these "wellness farms".

Arbeit macht frei.

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[-] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

You clearly have not read the history of Nazi era labor camps. They had very nice sounding propaganda for Germans to believe too.

Don't kid yourself. They mean forced labor camps.

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[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 163 points 4 months ago

"I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it — to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities," he said during the broadcast.

Isn’t it neat how he mixes in prescribed medical treatments? Neato.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 81 points 4 months ago

Uh yeah, no.

I once thought it might be an idea to try and back off from 100mg sertraline to 50mg sertraline and on day two I wanted to strangle people. You can take my SSRIs from my cold dead hands.

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 40 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I'm on 300mg sertraline daily, and I sometimes have trouble getting my prescription filled (understandable, it's a way bigger dose than usual)

But if I'm not on it, the suicidal thoughts usually start on day 3

So if they were to take my SSRIs, I would quickly be killed by my own cold, dead hands

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 16 points 4 months ago

I'm going to try and write on my brain to turn those thoughts entirely on the people who decided I shouldn't get my meds anymore.

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[-] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

"Have you tried going outside and snapping out of it?"

-RFK Jr., probably

So school shootings are a mental health problem, so he wants to do the opposite of help. Goddamn, make these people make sense.

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 57 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He's a big believer in the whole "keeping people on drugs isn't the fix" kind of thinking. It's short-sighted and ignorant of the fact that a lot of people on them have a net benefit to function in society.

What he is proposing is something far more stupid akin to "Well look at me. I've never needed these drugs, and I'm totally fine. WTF, people?"

If you want a country that is doing the proper work to stop jumping to long-term prescriptions as problem solvers, I'm all for that. DO NOT confuse that with these dumb shit he's suggesting though.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 23 points 4 months ago

"Well look at me. I've never needed these drugs [He does], and I'm totally fine [He's not]. WTF, people?"

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Yes, but he THINKS he is.

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What he is proposing is something far more stupid akin to “Well look at me. I’ve never needed these drugs, and I’m totally fine. WTF, people?”

Except he looks like a reanimated corpse and sounds like a frog that died on a log in a bog.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Also, "get reparented" is some very sinister cult programming (ie brain washing) language..

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[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 24 points 4 months ago

It's all the same when you believe in conspiracy theories, are not a Dr., and had a brain worm die in your head.

Also, how in the hell do we not have at least a medical degree as the very 1st requirement for a position that controls/shapes medical care for the country?!

... to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it — to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities ...

Is this paid time/leave? Who does he envision paying for his "wellness farms"? Or is this him envisioning everyone creating some commune farm where everyone is eating mushrooms and killing bears?

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[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world 133 points 4 months ago

So his solution to ADHD is a concentration camp?

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 54 points 4 months ago

Sure, that way they can learn to concentrate.

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[-] BenReilly97@lemmy.world 114 points 4 months ago

And a tax on cannabis sales would fund these farms, he proposed.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but... is he really suggesting a federal tax on a federally illegal substance?

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 75 points 4 months ago

You hope he is just being clever and indirectly talking about legalizing cannabis, but you know that in reality he is just so incompetent that he has no idea what he is talking about.

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[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 60 points 4 months ago

A lot of Americans have to pass a drug test to get a new job. Perhaps RFK would like if we applied this reasoning to Trump's whole cabinet?

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 47 points 4 months ago

They’re skipping the FBI checks. Safe to say there will be no drug tests.

[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago

So they're just already saying the "camps" part out loud, eh? I guess when you have Hitler's playbook, you can move faster than Hitler did.

[-] Zier@fedia.io 40 points 4 months ago

Is he not aware that the fascist pumpkin he will be working for pops those like breath mints?? Please do send that rapist con man to a labor camp.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago

Yes I am sure not being hypocrites is high on their list of concerns

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago

Nothing to see here, just politics as usual, the liberals are just trying to scare everyone. /s

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 months ago

As a minority with ADHD I guess I'm fucked.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Summer Camp 2025 here we come! /s

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[-] Today@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

They pay your mortgage and buy your kids food while you're there?

[-] a_robot@lemm.ee 23 points 4 months ago
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[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

This is part of some rural grift facilities which probably started with "trouble teens". In recent years I've seen reports of these "farms" for "distressed" women. It's usually a place with Ranch in the name. Example: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2021/11/18/the-christian-maternity-ranch-in-texas-is-a-disaster-in-the-making/

Permaculture farms, for example, are already well known for relying on abusive work conditions. See Joel Salatin:

https://medium.com/permaculture-3-0/fall-of-a-hero-f9ac80a08c0c

https://www.motherjones.com/food/2020/11/joel-salatin-chris-newman-farming-rotational-grazing-agriculture/

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[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I already started weaning myself off my depression meds. Went cold turkey once, and that was a nightmare. They're planning to kill the VA, so fuck our service. I'm never getting cut off again. I'll switch to natural alternatives, thank you.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 13 points 4 months ago

Probably still easy to get from Mexico. Your mental health is important and shits about to get a whole lot more depressing

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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago
[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 months ago

Phew, glad my psychiatrist prescribed me Ritalin.

[-] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 months ago

what the hell. staying in Canada.

[-] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 months ago

Trade offer: you take my Prozac, I go off the deep end and take some fucks with me.

[-] Draghetta@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

I wonder if commenters here went beyond the headline, or bothered to read the quote in the comments.

The actual quote is not remotely as sinister. He said that he will start these community farms (which is not a labour camp for f sake) where addicts (which is not everyone who takes meds, it’s those who do but shouldn’t, of which there are thousands) can voluntarily choose to go, which is a far cry from “I’ll shove anybody who takes antidepressants into a labour camp” as the title suggests.

There are a lot of people who take meds from dealers instead of doctors, who may have started recreationally but are now addicted to them. This is what he is lumping together with other kinds of drug addicts. It’s not even that stupid, it has been shown in studies that addiction is more effectively addressed by giving the person meaningful things to do.

Now you can have your opinion on this idea and you can be skeptical of his implementation and you really should, the guy is a nut job who shouldn’t be allowed within ten kilometres from a government office - but sending regular joes to concentration camps because they take meds is not what he said.

This title is rage bait, don’t fall for it.

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[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Fuck that.

I strongly dislike how the argument hinges on the very movable goalpost of "illegal" drugs. It has this awful moralizing "protect the kids while we destroy privacy", vibe to it.

At first I though this would require an end-run on HIPAA, but all they really need to do is re-schedule a bunch of therapeutic drugs. Or ignore the FDA entirely and just enforce a ban by edict (somehow) through a different agency. I don't think we've ever seen federal agencies openly disagree like that before, but I think it's possible. Also: big pharma may have something to say about all this.

Like a lot of the nonsense coming from this cabinet, it'll test the crap out of state's rights.

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[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Wow, I'm so glad this dipshit who's never had to work a day in his life could give this paternal wisdom to the plebs who might need this medication to retain employment and not die destitute in the streets.

Who knew they just needed to be sent to a farm upstate so they could run free forever and ever?

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