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Elon Musk’s frequent presence at Mar-a-Lago and his involvement in sensitive conversations have raised concerns among Trump’s longstanding advisers, who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting.

Musk’s push for influence, including voicing policy ideas and taking credit for Trump’s win, has raised concerns about his motives and loyalty.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

It's funny... I said that when Trump dies it will be total chaos because all these people hate each other and they will all work as hard as possible to tear each other apart since Trump is the only thing that unites them.

Maybe we won't have to wait for Trump to die.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Elon Musk is a once in a generation business leader

That's not a compliment, that's a prerequisite to becoming everything Musk currently is. If "a generation" of people had been afforded even one percent of the privilege he's received, Musk would've been outshined by more competent people long ago.

[-] prole 3 points 2 hours ago

Oh man, I would love to see Musk be the first purged from his administration. Maybe he will take the hint and stay out of the public eye after Trumpers turn on him.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Musk is probably more popular inside and outside the administration.

No way trump can handle being in anyone’s shadow.

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago

Trump has a habit of burning everyone close to him the second it is either (A) useful to him or (B) they are no longer unswerving loyal to their fuhrer. Musk is a dumbshit nepobaby who can't shut the fuck up and steals credit for everything he's near that he didn't ruin. It's only a matter of time before Trump burns Musk, and all I can ask for is that it completely ruins them both.

[-] prole 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It will only ruin Musk. Which would still be ok.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Musk is far richer than Trump could ever dream of being. Trump might be president, but Musk can use his money to get away with anything.

So it will be a fun fight to watch.

[-] oo1@lemmings.world 12 points 7 hours ago

I suspect Musk's welcome is as long as his chequebook. I think trump sees the $, if his "advisors" are offering him less $ I doubt Trump cars to listen.

The only issue might be if any of it could be proven to be criminal bribery - that seems unlikely though.

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Trump is literally and figuratively immune against any prosecution. He raped children, stole and killed millions.

I am no American, but at this point I think he could produce and distribute CP right in the oval office and nothing would happen. And that is the one thing next to murder, he didn't already commit publicly.

[-] hernanca@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

He's also the only appointee who's sharing his power with someone else. Ramaswamy and Musk will not work well together.

[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Useful idiot has served his limited purpose.

[-] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago

One can only hope.

[-] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago

Looks like we'll be bringing back Mooches as a measure of political tenure soon.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

If it happens fast enough we can have an Elon as a smaller unit.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 33 points 16 hours ago

He’s an accelerationist. He knows the death of America is coming and wants to be sitting pretty, real close to the top when it happens; so he can use his money to become king.

[-] prole 2 points 2 hours ago

Dude literally thinks he's Ozymandias from Watchmen. His entire existence is so fucking cringe.

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 hours ago

He can't pretend to save the world if the world isn't ending.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 hours ago

Which is several layers of stupid, seriously most of the time when empires collapse the ones in power are either remains of the old bureaucracy or warlords. The rich are usually a non factor unless they already fit into one of the previous two situations. None of the billionaires have enough hard power to pull that off in the long term.

[-] Timmy_Jizz_Tits@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

I'm hungry and Elon looks nice and plump.

[-] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I agree. We shouldn't eat the rich. We should beat the rich. Repeatedly and for great lengths of time. Possibly with spiky objects. I'm sure we can beat the rich out of them if we keep at it long enough. It might take years and years, but if we just keep beating the rich...

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 123 points 21 hours ago

Trump’s longstanding advisers, who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting.

Sounds like "trumps longstanding advisors" are worried they did all this work to get trump in power to use him are seeing musk come in and begin to use trump instead of them.

[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

I can only pray that they all tear each other to shreds.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 17 points 16 hours ago

Honestly, once Trump gets sworn in, I assume the people around him who want to implement Project 2025 won't have any more use for him. That's why Vance is there, just look at his track record, he knows how to play ball.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 42 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Pretty much. His advisors have quietly expressed "concern" to the media about a lot of things, and they go nowhere.

Every once in a while, it does. Laura Loomer seems to have been forgotten. That might just be Trump getting bored with sleeping with her, though.

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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 200 points 23 hours ago

Please let them be too busy fighting amongst themselves these next four years they just are unable to get anything destructive done.

[-] theedqueen@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Hopefully it’s only 2 years if dems can win back seats during the midterms

[-] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I’m sorry for being harsh, but the only reason the democrats exist is to slow down the fascists ever so slightly and then just peacefully hand over power to the fascists when they gain control again.

We need real change, the kind of change that only comes from a revolution. The democrats do not give a shit about you. They serve only the wealthy.

Stop believing their lies. Go out there and unionise!!

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 87 points 22 hours ago

I am 100% in favor of teenage drama derailing their efforts to remove bodily autonomy from women.

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[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 93 points 22 hours ago

Let the infighting begin! Trump hires the worst people and creates a toxic "vie for the king's attention" atmosphere.

I wonder how many mooches he'll last.

[-] Benjaben@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

Yup! Weirdly Trump's own worst qualities also tend to neuter his ability to deal damage somewhat (only somewhat! Goddamn is the man just a pandimensional wrecking ball). He attracts some of the very worst people, but then he chews through them for whatever purpose he had in mind for them, and then invariably even those people leave his orbit and go "wow everyone, that guy really is a piece of shit". Pretty incredible stuff.

Similarly, his only actual ambition is personal greed, specifically his own wealth and fame. There's no ideology or barely even planning in him I don't think. Pretty sure his life is really best described as just the series of the nastiest, most self-serving moves he could think of at each moment along the way, with zero purpose except his own enrichment, both in dollars and fame/what he probably perceives as "power".

Of course what he seems to see as power or something desirable, everyone not trapped in his S-tier narcissism distortion field sees as just him stating the terms of his own manipulation to whomever wants to take advantage, for mutual benefit. Right in the open. But sure, he's the tough talker we need on the world stage, lol. Amazing. Sorry, just realized I have reached full tangent mode now, I regret nothing but I'll end my rant heh.

[-] scripthook@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Regardless of how many loyalists he has he'll get in the way of himself along with some Republicans in the senate, Democrats using the filibuster and the right wing media will get him to change his mind. 2 years isn't a lot to make all of these changes before the democrats at least take back the House

[-] Benjaben@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

There's precedent for it, that's exactly the (thankfully moronic) dumb shit that happened the last time they had majorities like that. This feels different this time, with the Supreme Court and such, but who knows. Lotta self centered people imagining themselves on top...may amount to little. One can hope.

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[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 32 points 21 hours ago

Trump hires the worst people and creates a toxic "vie for the king's attention" atmosphere.

Now thats a mutually assured destruction scenario I'd be in favor of.

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[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 138 points 23 hours ago

I can't really see 2 egos of that size coexisting. I'm terrified of being wrong about that in this case though

[-] beansbeansbeans@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

They can't get too close, or the masses of their egos will rip spacetime a new blackasshole.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 88 points 23 hours ago

Did you see Don's face when Elon was doing his jumping shit? Don's already sick of him, and only keeping him around because he's worth so much.

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[-] niucllos@lemm.ee 56 points 23 hours ago

Oh please let Trump's first dictatorial move be to strip Elon of his wealth. We're all going to suffer some shit but let at least one oligarch stuffer too

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 58 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It can start by denaturalizing him since he lied on his immigration forms and was in the country illegally when he first came here. That's not even dictatorial, it's the letter of the law.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 30 points 21 hours ago

"First they came for the Oligarchs and I did not speak out - because I was not an Oligarch, and really because wage inequality is the core problem facing our society so coming for the Oligarchs seemed like a pretty good idea to me."

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 43 points 23 hours ago

who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting

... that's one way to put it.

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