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[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 384 points 8 months ago
[-] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 299 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

“No one in their right mind is backing 2025…”

Then why did YOU?!

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 240 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"He's probably just joking" is something I heard so much over the past few years about things the right has been spewing. THEY ARE NOT JOKING, THEY ARE NEVER JOKING! I don't know how this is a hard thing to understand.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 107 points 8 months ago

Also, if they are lying about these things, why did they vote for a liar? A lot of people who called agenda 2025 fake or lies still voted for the party representing it.

[-] SGforce@lemmy.ca 38 points 8 months ago

Also, why the fuck is it cool for a politician to joke about doing shit? Literally any joke is not cool.

[-] SoleInvictus 29 points 8 months ago

Fuck, my neighbor says the same every time Trump says something awful. "Trump just talks a lot of shit, he's just joking."

Fuck you neighbor, you approved leadership from the guy who encouraged putting kids in cages.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm sorry I thought we were having an election for president, not jester.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Putting kids in cages to sell them.into child sex trafficking because trump and his cronies ARE THE PEDOPHILES THAT MAGA IS LOOKING FOR

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

They lie all the time.

we just don't get to know when it's happening. People that trust those guys go with a "this is too horrible, so they must be lying" heuristic, that has been proven not to work several times. The problem is that an heuristic is not supposed to be reliable, and it's hard to make them see beyond the noise.

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[-] zib@lemmy.world 188 points 8 months ago

I used to have a boss who like to joke about firing people on his team. He was a nice guy and there was no ill intention behind the jokes, but we eventually had to sit him down and tell him that he couldn't joke about that stuff because it causes a great deal of stress to people given his position.

Another example is bomb jokes in airports. Aside from just being in poor taste, that's something that will get you arrested and probably put on a no-fly list for life because it's an extremely serious matter with no exceptions.

So, even if Trump and his people are just joking about these horrible things, it's completely unacceptable when it's entirely believable they would do this stuff and would be in a position to make it happen.

TLDR: There are just some things you don't fucking joke about.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I joke about firing people sometimes, but I am not a manager and never want to be managing anyone. I only say it to people who know that I have no power over them which is the only time this joke is OK.

[-] Entropywins@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

I do IT at a semiconductor foundry, and only us and managers walk around with laptops. I don't even have to say anything, and people get in panic mode and scramble to look like they are working until I say don't worry, I'm just IT. I won't say a word.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

I remember a story of a young manager joking about firing people. The older manager pulled him to the side and told him you can't do that because that can hit people.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Sounds like you hate free speech! You would really imprison others for a difference of opinion??!

---any random trumpfuck

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 94 points 8 months ago
[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 27 points 8 months ago
[-] boomzilla@programming.dev 22 points 8 months ago

Let me be a grammar Nazi. It's "gewusst". But spot on, yes.

For non-german speakers: "I didn't knew of this". In a reference to Nazi germany when Hitler and the NSDAP publicised a lot of their plans inb4. Just like HF with P2025.

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[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 73 points 8 months ago
[-] Digital_man@lemmy.one 72 points 8 months ago

Worried about making white people uncomfortable is how we got here in this first place.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 65 points 8 months ago

I listened to many interviews with people convinced that Trump wouldn't do the things he said he would do. They definitely won't acknowledge the things he said he won't do.

[-] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

To be fair, I'm hoping Trump won't do a lot of the things that he said he'd do. I have some hope of that--not because his intentions are good, but on the chance he gets distracted with something less harmful that strokes his ego.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

Trump is not the one to worry about now. His entire cabinet and the cavities within every institution who wrote and sponsored and want project 2025 are the ones to worry about. They will be carrying out their edict that they've successfully worked on for at least a decade now if not more. They have everything they could ever want to do it. And Trump will do random crazy things because he can now and that's who he is but he doesn't care about 2025, he just cares about celebrity, money and power. And every crazy thing he makes headlines for will be when the power grabs really happen and when the damage is done.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 65 points 8 months ago

This is why America deserves everything it voted for this time around.

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago

A lot of people are going to suffer who didn't vote for him. This is as callous as the fascists.

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[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

The people who voted for evil do.

The people who failed to vote against evil do, but less.

The people who voted against evil? No fuckin chance.

"America" is too wide a brush, but I get talking that way.

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[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 8 months ago

Conservative / fascist leaders deserve it, the rest of us do not. The kids who were too young to vote, the leftists who fight against fascism, and the workers who don't have the time to follow politics do not deserve any of what is to come.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Young voters voted for Trump. Tons of kids support him: https://www.axios.com/2024/11/07/young-men-voters-trump-2024-exit-polls

Unionized workers had grassroots support for Trump: https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/teamsters-endorsement-harris-trump-2024

Staunch democrats sat out, or protest voted: https://www.axios.com/local/detroit/2024/11/07/why-biden-outperformed-harris-throughout-metro-detroit

Ignorantia juris non excusat. Ignorance of the law excuses not.

America is objectively, measurably, ignorant, trapped in bubbles, and we collectively did little to lift each other out. We are going to face justice for it.

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[-] db2@lemmy.world 54 points 8 months ago
[-] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 45 points 8 months ago

The time for being reasonable and trying to convince willfully ignorant fucks is long past. You tell them they are a fucking fool. You block them on all communication channels. You never talk to them again. Trying to reason with an idiot is a waste of time. If anything you feed their thought process they are right by debating. They should all be ignored. They should all be cut off from their loved ones and friends.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago

Shut them down, but leave them a route out.

It's a cult, one of the goals is to trap people within them. The worst thing we can do is shove people back into that box, once they try and escape. It might be satisfying, but it's also extremely counterproductive.

If America wants to actually win, you either need to outlive, or deconvert the members. The first will take generations, I presume you don't want to have to wait that long?

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[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The Narcissist's Prayer

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did, you deserved it.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 40 points 8 months ago

Like the citizens of Weimar (near concentration camp Buchenwald) said in april 1945: wir haben es nicht gewusst

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

They sure seem to like the Arbeit macht frei signs too, rolling back child labor laws for more “freedom”

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 39 points 8 months ago
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[-] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

The problem is that he was likely joking. It’s a shitty joke on our end but Walsh is deliberately using people’s panic to make fun of the media and the left in general.

The point of the joke was to trigger alarms and make people write dumb articles about it. Then he can point and laugh about how his joke triggered you and also turn accusations about Project 2025 into a hyperbole that the left uses. From then on the phrase will be easily ignored by moderates as an overreaction from the left. Because in this case it is an overreaction, he’s clearly trying to scare people.

Just keep in mind that this is a common tactic they employ to take the sting out of certain terms and to keep their base unaware of the BS. It’s why the left can’t rally around phrases like the right can.

[-] Catoblepas 29 points 8 months ago

I don’t disagree with your analysis of what he’s doing, but I don’t think he’s joking in the sense that he doesn’t mean it. He’s “joking” in the “haha just kidding… unless? 👀” sense.

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[-] capital@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

The velocity of those goalposts is astounding.

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[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 27 points 8 months ago

How delusional. They’re gonna try to pass all of it.

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

We know most of them are stupid.

[-] lettruthout@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

'Seems like there will be a lot of well-fed leopards in the near future.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Republicans consider a "joke" to mean what they retroactively designate something that they meant in earnest as soon as they get pushback.

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

I hate Matt Walsh and his stupid face.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

The majority of the electorate is mentally defective degenerates.

[-] auzy@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

I also argued with someone who said the information was a badly organized protest and said I was overreacting lol

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