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[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Narcissist's Prayer

That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did, you deserved it.

[-] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

"The things we said we're gonna do? We're doing them."

:O

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Republicans consider a "joke" to mean what they retroactively designate something that they meant in earnest as soon as they get pushback.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

The velocity of those goalposts is astounding.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago

Goalpost Railgun

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago

This is why America deserves everything it voted for this time around.

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago

A lot of people are going to suffer who didn't vote for him. This is as callous as the fascists.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

there are alot of voters that didn't vote *at all *.

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[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

The people who voted for evil do.

The people who failed to vote against evil do, but less.

The people who voted against evil? No fuckin chance.

"America" is too wide a brush, but I get talking that way.

[-] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Pour one out for all the people drilled into being ultra-gullible when it comes to Fox&Co-Conspirators and completely immunised to viewpoints that contradict the propaganda machine. Would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

[-] xJREB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I guess the issue is that, assuming a turnout of 60% for simplicity, the undeserving third category you mention only makes up roughly 30% of eligible voters. Which means 70% of eligible voters are deserving of what's coming to them (according to you). I acknowledge that throwing the whole country into the same bucket is not a fair and helpful simplification, but it's becoming increasingly harder to resist the urge.

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[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 3 days ago

Conservative / fascist leaders deserve it, the rest of us do not. The kids who were too young to vote, the leftists who fight against fascism, and the workers who don't have the time to follow politics do not deserve any of what is to come.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Young voters voted for Trump. Tons of kids support him: https://www.axios.com/2024/11/07/young-men-voters-trump-2024-exit-polls

Unionized workers had grassroots support for Trump: https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/teamsters-endorsement-harris-trump-2024

Staunch democrats sat out, or protest voted: https://www.axios.com/local/detroit/2024/11/07/why-biden-outperformed-harris-throughout-metro-detroit

Ignorantia juris non excusat. Ignorance of the law excuses not.

America is objectively, measurably, ignorant, trapped in bubbles, and we collectively did little to lift each other out. We are going to face justice for it.

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[-] ghterve@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You had me until that last group.

If you opt out of participating, you deserve whatever happens without you.

We're in this mess arguably because of all the people who chose not to participate.

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[-] Lanthanae@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Not everyone voted for Trump, but even so, people don't deserve pain just because they're bad.

Stop this puritanical bs.

[-] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

People that voted for bad things to happen don't deserve bad things to happen?

Wut!?

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[-] prole 9 points 2 days ago

Nazis deserve no quarter. Learn some history, you're edging pretty close to Nazi apologia.

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 days ago
[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

Don't catch you slippin' now

[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 372 points 4 days ago
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[-] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 286 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

“No one in their right mind is backing 2025…”

Then why did YOU?!

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 236 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"He's probably just joking" is something I heard so much over the past few years about things the right has been spewing. THEY ARE NOT JOKING, THEY ARE NEVER JOKING! I don't know how this is a hard thing to understand.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 105 points 4 days ago

Also, if they are lying about these things, why did they vote for a liar? A lot of people who called agenda 2025 fake or lies still voted for the party representing it.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago

Trump says 'I don't kid' after aides argue he was joking about slowing coronavirus testing.

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[-] SoleInvictus 28 points 3 days ago

Fuck, my neighbor says the same every time Trump says something awful. "Trump just talks a lot of shit, he's just joking."

Fuck you neighbor, you approved leadership from the guy who encouraged putting kids in cages.

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[-] SGforce@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 days ago

Also, why the fuck is it cool for a politician to joke about doing shit? Literally any joke is not cool.

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[-] zib@lemmy.world 184 points 4 days ago

I used to have a boss who like to joke about firing people on his team. He was a nice guy and there was no ill intention behind the jokes, but we eventually had to sit him down and tell him that he couldn't joke about that stuff because it causes a great deal of stress to people given his position.

Another example is bomb jokes in airports. Aside from just being in poor taste, that's something that will get you arrested and probably put on a no-fly list for life because it's an extremely serious matter with no exceptions.

So, even if Trump and his people are just joking about these horrible things, it's completely unacceptable when it's entirely believable they would do this stuff and would be in a position to make it happen.

TLDR: There are just some things you don't fucking joke about.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Every single time any of them say anything atrocious, it gets dismissed by the people who realize how bad it is as a joke.

Every single time.

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 93 points 3 days ago
[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago
[-] boomzilla@programming.dev 20 points 3 days ago

Let me be a grammar Nazi. It's "gewusst". But spot on, yes.

For non-german speakers: "I didn't knew of this". In a reference to Nazi germany when Hitler and the NSDAP publicised a lot of their plans inb4. Just like HF with P2025.

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[-] auzy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I also argued with someone who said the information was a badly organized protest and said I was overreacting lol

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

RumbaGPT, how will this play out?

He's probably just joking and if he's not, it's not so bad and if it is that bad it won't affect you and it if will you deserve it

[-] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago

The time for being reasonable and trying to convince willfully ignorant fucks is long past. You tell them they are a fucking fool. You block them on all communication channels. You never talk to them again. Trying to reason with an idiot is a waste of time. If anything you feed their thought process they are right by debating. They should all be ignored. They should all be cut off from their loved ones and friends.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

Shut them down, but leave them a route out.

It's a cult, one of the goals is to trap people within them. The worst thing we can do is shove people back into that box, once they try and escape. It might be satisfying, but it's also extremely counterproductive.

If America wants to actually win, you either need to outlive, or deconvert the members. The first will take generations, I presume you don't want to have to wait that long?

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

We know most of them are stupid.

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 72 points 4 days ago
[-] Digital_man@lemmy.one 72 points 4 days ago

Worried about making white people uncomfortable is how we got here in this first place.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 65 points 4 days ago

I listened to many interviews with people convinced that Trump wouldn't do the things he said he would do. They definitely won't acknowledge the things he said he won't do.

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[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 40 points 3 days ago

Like the citizens of Weimar (near concentration camp Buchenwald) said in april 1945: wir haben es nicht gewusst

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

They sure seem to like the Arbeit macht frei signs too, rolling back child labor laws for more “freedom”

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[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 27 points 3 days ago

How delusional. They’re gonna try to pass all of it.

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[-] db2@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago

My parents contantly regurgitates propaganda from wechat about how democrats in NYC are letting homess people and migrants ruin everything.

We dont even live in NYC.

I told her to vote Harris and she did (she didn't even know how to fill out a ballot I had to tell her how to) but then later she said "maybe we shouldn't vote for democrats" because of the homeless shelters built near Chinese populations in NYC (which is a fair grivence, but I dont see how republicans are gonna solve it better). Abosolutely no independent thought and no critical thinking just parroting whatever the last person said.

She doesn't understand that the "homeless" or "migrants" are just dogwhistles referring to people like us who maga republicans deem inferior.

[-] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago

The problem is that he was likely joking. It’s a shitty joke on our end but Walsh is deliberately using people’s panic to make fun of the media and the left in general.

The point of the joke was to trigger alarms and make people write dumb articles about it. Then he can point and laugh about how his joke triggered you and also turn accusations about Project 2025 into a hyperbole that the left uses. From then on the phrase will be easily ignored by moderates as an overreaction from the left. Because in this case it is an overreaction, he’s clearly trying to scare people.

Just keep in mind that this is a common tactic they employ to take the sting out of certain terms and to keep their base unaware of the BS. It’s why the left can’t rally around phrases like the right can.

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