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[-] WereCat@lemmy.world 145 points 11 months ago

If they don't want me to buy them then why should I buy them now instead of borrowing them for free for unspecified amount of time from the Internet?

[-] intresteph@discuss.online 69 points 11 months ago

Get it before it’s gone! Go fast! Spend money! Don’t just pirate it when it becomes unavailable!!

[-] Coskii 30 points 11 months ago

I bought them ages ago and let me tell you, crazy taxi without the offspring is just not the same. Borrowing the original versions for free from the internet is the only way to go.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 months ago

There are mods for it to restore the soundtrack and other little tweaks.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago

I am pretty sure I picked up the Android version for free a few years ago and it had The Offspring but I installed it just now and it's gone. It's also now talking about ads and data collection so I assume the original build has been unavailable for a while.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 116 points 11 months ago

If by "grab", you mean "pirate". Don't reward them for taking games away.

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 11 months ago

They mean grab by now buying it and you will keep it on Steam. But it will be unavailable for users after late December to buy it.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's just a longer way of saying "reward them for taking games away while you can"..

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 11 months ago

ya I do agree, we shouldn't reward them by taking games away. Let's just go to 1337x

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 70 points 11 months ago

OH no they don't want my money? Now's not the time, I won't bother then

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 4 points 11 months ago

right? I already have the ones I give a shit about ... On my shelf where they can't de-list them.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

https://www.raspberrypi.com/ + https://batocera.org/ + yarr + a USB controller

Rewarding bad behavior only encourages more

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I hope this doesn't affect my folders full of every Sega game rom ever.

[-] proti@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

they are probably cooking something, maybe their own platform? who knows

[-] PineRune@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago

Probably remasters or remakes. They don't want to compete with themselves.

[-] Uruanna@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Exactly, they announced earlier this year that they were working on reviving a bunch of licences, including Crazy Taxi, Jet Set Radio, Shinobi, Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, and hinting at a longer list. We don't know yet eactly how many titles that includes, and which of them will get remakes, remasters, or brand new games, but it was hinting brand new. Early dev footage was leaked at some point for Crazy Taxi and Shinobi.

[-] Grangle1@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

They already did this with the classic Sonic games (Sonic Origins) and removed them from any new Steam copies of the Genesis/Mega Drive Classics collection. I doubt they're working on all the games in their library, but it may be enough of them that they just decided to pull the whole collection rather than leave it so gutted out. Sucks, but yeah, that's the way it goes. That said, Shining Force remaster please? That would be awesome.

[-] proti@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

maybe, but for 60 games at once?

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

This generates "buzz" it's free marketing

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It'll be in a compilation pack, I'd bet

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Which is a bit ironic, considering all of these are in two compilation packs.

They're probably going to have a new compilation pack that costs about the same price and has a few additional games...but they didn't want to just sell DLC/standalone games for the Collections that already exist.

And actually, a lot of these games that are getting delisted can be purchased separately. And maybe even have ROMs that are easily extracted. So maybe they just want to lock things down into an all-or-nothing ROMs-hidden collection or 10.

[-] JamesBean@kbin.earth 2 points 11 months ago

No 'probably' about it. Can't speak to all of the titles being removed, but they dropped this trailer almost a year ago.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 2 points 11 months ago

I wonder if it's a licensing thing. I know a few of these games had heavy use of licensed music, like Jet Set Radio and Crazy Taxy. At least, the original versions did, I'm not sure if that's the case for the Steam ports.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Someone else here mentioned that Crazy Taxi doesn't have the licensed music, but it can be modded back in.

...maybe they're locking down mod support, too? Lol

[-] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 11 months ago

Im here just to flex I have a genesis with a everdrive and a Dreamcast with gdemu so it dont bothers me personally.

Still is a shit, thoug.

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Ask your mom if you can have friends over to play this weekend.

[-] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 11 months ago

My 4 dreamcast controllers are there, waiting for friends to come. That never happen.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

This is also why I often buy games on gog that I already "own" on steam.

[-] TBi@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

This is why I “acquire” games I already own on steam. Or buy first from GoG. I’m not paying twice for same game.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sometimes they're not on gog and I want to play them. Other times it's 4$ on steam and 50$ on gog. I'll buy it for 4 on steam so I can play it, then wait for the sale on gog down the road. Sometimes it's a convenience thing cause I have a steam deck and it's just nice to deal with native compatibility.

[-] TheFrogThatFlies@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I think I have a single Steam game from within which I can then run those games. How would I backup the delisted games?

[-] aubertlone@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

I think if you own that you're still able to download them afterwards

[-] brsrklf@jlai.lu 6 points 11 months ago

You're right, this is what they've been announcing. The games you've bought will still be available for download.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No, you need to install them as well. It'll work as long as it's installed, but after they're delisted, I don't think steam can even distribute them.

I know I have at least one game "grid: race driver" that was delisted from steam, at some point I must have uninstalled it, and now I can't download it, it doesn't even show up in my library. I've been trying like hell to find a way to play it, but even pirated versions are being difficult.

Edit: judging from comments and downvotes, apparently this is rare? But it does definitely happen, I'm not making this example up. And I don't know how you could predict whether a game will just be unavailable for purchase or totally disappear...

[-] brsrklf@jlai.lu 10 points 11 months ago

This is not the case with the sega games we're talking about. The announcement specifically mentions the games will still be available to download if you bought them before the delisting.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Well that's certainly good news! And I admit I wasn't aware of that announcement.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

It's extremely rare for a delisted game to be removed from your library, and they only do it in cases where, for instance, the game would literally be unplayable because the server isn't there anymore. Often times they won't remove the game from your library in that situation either. Having the game in your library is, in fact, enough.

[-] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Removing games from player inventory is very rare; I've only seen it happen when malware is uploaded to Steam as a game.

I have a few games that can't be played anymore, like Super Bomberman R Online and The Crew. I still can download their files from Steam; but I can't play them.

But now I'm curious too, what could've happened that got that game removed from the people who bought the game

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I'm a bit curious too. My theory is that it may have come down to licensing and trademark issue. Since the game used actual car brands and their logos and such, they may have had some agreement over their usage and perhaps the period of that agreement ended. It's worth noting that the game was available from several different stores, and it became unavailable everywhere as far as I know.

[-] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Even when that agreement expires (see blur as a race game example), the game typically isn't removed from libraries.

As for your game I think archive.org has a copy listed ( https://archive.org/details/race-driver-grid_202112 ), it says it's a GOG copy so it shouldn't give any issues, does it give any? (Do not click the spam comments, check the download options and pick either zip or torrent)

[-] Grangle1@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

That's the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive Classics collection. I have it myself (bought several years ago). It's just an official emulator/GUI wrapper (styled like a bedroom with a CRT) that comes with the games. If you have the collection you can find all the ROMs in the collection's folder and play them with whatever emulator you want. If Steam ever threatens to take them away I strongly recommend backing that folder up somewhere.

[-] TheFrogThatFlies@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Never bothered to look into what it contained, but using the ROM outside steam is a very interesting proposal, thanks!

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 11 months ago
[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 11 months ago

"You own nothing and be happy", right?

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

That's games that you can and do buy of Steam. Delisting changes nothing except that you won't be able to give them money in exchange for not owning the games.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Echo the Dolphin being purged is worth the loss of the other 59.

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