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[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago

My Mexican immigrant coworker believes that if Kamala gets elected that immigrants will be deported but also immigrants are getting too much free money and food stamps and things like that. He really has bought into some kind of weird belief that Donald Trump is a better candidate. He can't vote because he's not a citizen. I think he's just pissed off because he works two jobs and sees people who get free stuff and don't come here legally as lazy.

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 hours ago

Undecided voters are the dumbest people on the face of the Earth.

[-] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago

I disagree. Trumpers are definitely worse.

[-] ValenThyme@reddthat.com 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

say what you want about the tenets of trumpism, Dude, at least it's an ethos!

(jokes aside I am no contact now with any of my relatives who expresses any pro trump support. I'm trans and fuck you, fam!)

[-] yankgenosiders@lemmings.world 2 points 5 hours ago

What is the difference?

[-] yankgenosiders@lemmings.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Yes they are very dumb dumb. Trump is the worst.

[-] peppers_ghost@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 hours ago

Spotless is a gross way to describe her career as a prosecutor.

[-] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 hours ago

Don't know why you're being downvoted, Harris isn't perfect but with Trump on the other side not much is required of her to be the best option.

[-] peppers_ghost@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

I'll go as far to say she's a huge piece of shit that smells less bad than trump but you're still working with a turd

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

"Pedophile" is missing from the trump one...

[-] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago

It appears a good chunk really loves the racism thingy

[-] CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 hours ago

They still need more information, probably about her emails because they are so far behind on political news.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

So frustrating

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 42 points 12 hours ago

I might not leave the country, but I’ll have to leave my state. I wonder if next Friday after work I’ll need to load up everything I can fit in my car and drive as far north as possible. It’s terrifying that my rights as a transgender human vanish will vanish overnight where I live. I’ve heard of bounties in Odessa.

Knowing that most of the people I live and work around are happily voting for a child rapist has broken my brain. The folks protesting at the Planned Parenthood (abortion is already illegal here) are going to vote for a man that’s probably paid for multiple abortions. It’s a sickness I can’t fathom.

[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

Its sickening what is happening to this country, that you even feel the need to flee in such a way, but it is a realistic concern. There are people who very much want carte blanche to harm trans people, and if Trump is elected they may get that cover, its vile.

[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

fully agree. hope you don't have to move... but for some miraculous incomprehensible reason the race is a statistical tie

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[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 31 points 14 hours ago

Left out rapist under Trump's "accomplishments"

[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

I didn't follow as closely. was he convicted of rape? I know he was accused. given his track record im 100% sure he's guilty of everything. but I thought he managed to settle and weasel his way out so he's not officially convicted as a rapist...

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

He raped his exwife, it was in their divorce filings. He did it as revenge for his hair plug surgery going badly.

[-] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 9 points 8 hours ago
[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

that's what I thought. he dodged the rape charge. if he was convicted of rape he would certainly have been sentenced, served time in prison, and be on the sex offender registry.

regardless, hopefully in a week we never have to think about him again

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Whether or not he was convicted, it's a fact that he is a rapist.

It won't end after the polls close. The MAGA cult has been setting the stage to fight any results they don't like which will certainly create a large amount of time until the results are fully certified.

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[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 49 points 15 hours ago

Undecided voter = person who cannot discern truth

[-] Karjalan@lemmy.world 39 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I don't understand how there are undecided voters this election... I understand trump voters. Ride or die republicans, bigots, wealthy people that want more money for themselves. They are fucked up, but they make sense.

But how are you undecided? What are you weighing up. If you're not in the aforementioned groups, what single positive thing does trump offer?

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Undecided voters aren’t undecided because they’re oblivious to what’s going on. They’re undecided because they live in a swing state, so they have more power than the average voter, and most importantly they want something. They see the candidates campaigning specifically for them. They’re hoping to be offered a promise they actually care about.

[-] InputZero@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

The only reason I can actually understand an undecided voter is if it's actually a strategic decision to entice the parties to give them more. An undecided voter is worth so much that Elon is literally giving away millions of dollars to sway them. Yeah it's chump change to him but it's still unprecedented. It would be kind of like a nullifying jurur, in that they're saying something completely different than what they're thinking. That totally gives undecided voters way more credit than they're actually due, because in reality they're just ignorant of the situation.

[-] stochasticity@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago

I've seen some people try the free speech angle. But that isn't true either. Neither he nor Elon are actually about free speech.

[-] Karjalan@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

No, they're inherently more anti free speech than the people they're puroportedly against, anyone using that justification is either ignorant or only cares about not getting in trouble for being a bigot

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[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 14 hours ago

Ignoring everything else here prosecutor is a net negative and "Felon" isn't a bad thing necessarily. If you want to you can criticize Trump without propping up law enforcement.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 50 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

With a more representative electoral system, we could have more then two buttons. First-past-the-post voting is mathematically flawed and will always result in a two party system, which is why we must replace it as soon as we can.

Yall believe in democracy right?

[-] florencia 1 points 5 hours ago

First past the post voting is the cheapest and fastest use of taxpayer dollars. Must we overburden our poorest districts with purchasing requirements for fancy smancy vote counting machines? /s

[-] dandelion 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

In fact, this whole elections thing is just so expensive, a burdensome cost to the people. Wouldn't you prefer to save money and enjoy the reduced risk with knowing a qualified expert is running things (\s)

(this legit is how the Heritage Foundation sounds)

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[-] BluJay320 29 points 16 hours ago

Apparently you’re a nazi if you vote for either, so you should just not vote

  • totally not an astroturfer
[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 15 points 15 hours ago

Are there really many voters undecided between Harris and Trump?

[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Naw there's just a bunch of people who won't admit they're voting for Trump when you ask them. They also don't want their friends/community thinking they're voting for a Democrat either so they just lie and say they're undecided or even more likely Independent™ because that sounds cool anyway. They know they're voting for a fascist but also want to have their cake too and not publicly admit it.

They may not even want the fascist part. But they're voting for Trump because they think one day they'll make over $500k/yr and they don't want to pay "200% more taxes" (it's actually 2%) when that day inevitably comes. The rest of them secretly would rather kill their children than let a black woman run our country, but they'd never say it.

[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Statistically, that's just not true. Just look at the differences from the polls, the margin between Harris and Trump has moved quite some percentage points back and forth. E.g. after RFKs endorsement, more undecided voters went to Trump and after the debate, more went back to Harris.

[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

actually, i think they know they will never make 500k a year. they are voting for trump because he hates they people they do, and he validates their racist behavior.

they also believe some of the lies he sprouts about immigrants stealing their jobs and being a drain on the system.

[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago

sadly yes. there are people who are still on the fence. given that 70million people will look the other way and vote for him despite the lies, dementia, racism, Facism, Nazism, narcissism, sexism, felonies, fraud, racketeering, sexual harassment, etc. I'm not surprised a few million are on the fence.

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 7 points 12 hours ago

I have a friend who voted for Trump and now he is undecided. Now he is saying he isn't voting for anyone. I guess that's better than voting for Trump. He lives in AZ. So that is sorta a win.

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