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[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 80 points 4 months ago

Well my US public school system spent 75% of history class and 25% of English class on the Holocaust so I’m actually feeling really well prepared for this section, the trick is not to go along with genocide if your country is supporting it

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 21 points 4 months ago

LOL the "vote 3rd party" crowd really is trying their adorable damnedest aren't they

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 16 points 4 months ago

8 yearold me would not have been able to grasp your position and 30 yearold me can’t either. Guess I’m too soft to compromise on ethnic cleansing.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

3rd party has literally zero chance of winning. a vote for 3rd party is a vote going straight into the trash. 3rd party voters are not making a "statement." they are not "morally superior," nor is anyone applauding them for their "principles." in fact, the only people that actually like 3rd party voters are republicans, because they're actively helping trump win. everyone else is either laughing at you or just shaking their head

also spoiler alert: trump will be orders of magnitude worse for palestine than ANYONE on this planet. yes, including netanyoohoo.

you do you pal

edit: i want to add: i voted for jill stein in 2016 because trump was a pathetic joke even then, but i just didn't much care for hillary. just like i don't much care for kamala

NEVER. AGAIN.

EVER.

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[-] kautau@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Not to worry, if the GOP gets their way that's the end goal in the US anyway

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago
[-] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

"Nothing would fundamentally change" is superior to "everything would get a fuck-ton worse."

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[-] halykthered@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

I don't understand it, either. I've seen comics and comments about how not voting for a genocidal candidate might get trans people killed, while children are actively being blown apart and incinerated in hospital beds, currently, as we type.

I don't like that trans people have to live in fear. I would like them to be as comfortable in their communities as the whitest, straightest, most christian dude in Texas is in his community.

Any argument for or against the current candidates that is laced with hyperbolic slippery slopes cannot overcome the actual murdering of an entire people that's unfolding in front of us all.

I cannot buy into any argument that plays on the lesser of two evils, as we would still have to choose an evil.

Let's be clear that this isn't an easy world we live in, but I refuse to support a literal ethnic purge.

[-] Anomaline@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

...dude you're writing off a genocide against me with "some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make" shit

You are actively advocating for people to be complicit in not preventing another genocide.

[-] halykthered@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

Has it happened? Are trans actively being bombed in their hospital beds? Are they being piled in the streets and run over with bulldozers, dead and alive?

To claim that trans are the victims of genocide is disingenuous and minimizes the experience of the people currently experiencing genocide.

I am not discounting the potential threat against trans in america, but Palestinians are being shot, burned, and bombed right now. Entire families, gone.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

US public school system spent 75% of history class and 25% of English class on the Holocaust

How many of your classmates are Zionists? By comparison, how many are enthusiastic about First Nations civil liberties or reparations for Slavery?

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

mods, please deal with this

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I mean time on the Holocaust but no time whatsoever on the 30 years before it.

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[-] Exusia@lemmy.world 71 points 4 months ago

It was supposed to be Space travel. Flying cars. Automatons and lasers. Deep sea robots that could explore any shipwreck and show us the animals of the deep. Nanobots and cancer-cures.

We were promised the world would be ready for millenials to get into every field and make the differences they wanted to be, and so much more, as Dragons hoarded all the money and chopped the legs out from every ladder.

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I always think about this when this topic comes up. 9/11 happens and Bush says 'Drill baby drill'.

What if we had a president that was like 'hey maybe we should get over our addiction to fossil fuels and sever this toxic relationship with the middle east?' All the lives and money and time wasted on wars, and the destabilization it lead to in the USA and Europe which pulled people even further rightward toward this autocratic environmental suicide pact.

I wonder how different things would be if 1% of the people in Florida got off their couch and voted Gore.

EDIT I get y'all and agree but the point is that if Gore had won but just a bit more they wouldn't have been able to stop the count and send it to SCOTUS

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 25 points 4 months ago

Or if the Supreme Court hadn't given Florida to Bush.

[-] WhiteRabbit_33@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Turns out Gore did win, but the election was handed to Bush anyway. We could've been in a much different world.

A relatively long video on the topic (half hour) but a good one. https://youtu.be/jucDFrO89Ko

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I legit think this is the pivotal moment where everything started going downhill (at first, so slowly that we didn't notice, but downhill still)

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[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And we (millennials) went off and got our educations, and returned to the "real" world just to run into the brick wall that is Boomers- who've refused to retire, and who refuse to improve anything unless it benefits themselves, but are perfectly willing to gaslight everyone within earshot because they're incapable of admitting they're out of their element.

And now 20 years have gone by. Same fucking Boomers still hoarding and refusing to step off the top rungs of Corporate ladders.

[-] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Baby boom generation ended in 1964. Retirement age for full social security benefits for people born between 1960-1964 is 67 years. Someone born in 1960 has slightly more than two years until full retirement age. Most boomers were/are not c-suite executives. Most boomers will rely heavily on social security benefits.
Unfathomable why so many boomers are enthralled by the candidate/party that want to destroy social security. Something something, no war but class war.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 4 months ago

I mean we do have lasers. We've had lasers for ages.

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[-] m3t00@lemmy.world 54 points 4 months ago
[-] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 54 points 4 months ago

And that's why the phrase "May you live in interesting times" is a curse.

[-] IggyTheSmidge 54 points 4 months ago

The problem with knowing any amount of history is that any time anything happens you're just like:

'Oh. This again'.

It's somehow both tedious and horrifying.

[-] teddy2021@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Is there an analog for an extinction level event of our own creation and which persisted because of a variety of absolutely crawl reasons even after denial became the domain of idiots?

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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 4 months ago

Best i can do is commercialized privately owned slave space travel organized by daddy musk.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago
[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

You won’t be able to afford it unless you’re going to work in the mines.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 4 months ago

Well we got rich people spending billions of dollars to go to space for a bit. Unfortunately they come back too...

[-] NormalPerson@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago
[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago

Took me a while to realize which definition of subs you were referring to, but yes they should!

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 22 points 4 months ago

Instead all we get is AI-assisted Space Fascism.

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[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 21 points 4 months ago

The great beast is dying, sick with it's own poison. In it's final moments, it dies as it lived, devouring everything.

[-] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago

WHERE’S MY GOD-DAMN HOVERBOARD?!

[-] atocci@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

At least we finally got Europa Clipper 🙃

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Honestly space travel is finally getting good again. Give it ten years or so and either the US or China will have people on the moon.

[-] Potatisen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

India is putting in effort too, it's not great but once they figure out the kinks they're gonna catch up.

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[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 12 points 4 months ago

Best I can do is collapse of democracy.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Dismantling of.

American democracy has been under attack since the Civil Rights Era. We're in the latest stage of "If we can't run things, nobody can!" bigot counter-revolution.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Our universe is disappointing. Space travel would suck as much as you think. Like living in a can? Because that's what the laws of physics and our biology say will be space travel for us. We can't get places quickly, and there's no materials that can make a comfortable living space for any number of humans for that long.

Our Star Trek future is not coming. It's going to be like The Expanse, but worse.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

You're not in the wrong timeline.

You're just in the wrong country

American space exploration has gone the same way as American education, mass transit, and manufacturing, unfortunately.

[-] Potatisen@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Americans don't understand how absolutely owned they are. I'm not saying China is a wonderland but there are other ways of doing things. Capitalism has gone crazy I'm the US and the population doesn't understand whats happening.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

the frizz: let's see where the magic school Bus took us today!

or when!

oh, dear...

keesha furiously whispering to ralphie.

ralphie: a WHAT auction?

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

It was supposed to be space travel, instead it was the internet and cell phones. Good trade.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Can't imagine space travel without high speed telecommunications

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Not sure what you mean. Apollo 11 used radio communication. It would have been possible to develop laser communication (i.e. light speed) without building a worldwide internet.

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