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[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 68 points 2 months ago

Apparently it's the button you press to get banned from a community.

ASK ME HOW I KNOW

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago
[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

So stuupid ๐Ÿ˜†

[-] Didros@beehaw.org 3 points 2 months ago

Fine, I'll do it, how ya know?

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[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 54 points 2 months ago

A lot of those are joke downvotes, well mine was.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 89 points 2 months ago

I downvote anyone complaining about downvote out of principle.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm the same! If the comment contains the word downvote in it, it's a DV. I even downvote my own haha! It's a silly little reminder to myself how little they matter

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

I even downvote my own haha!

You've upvoted this one though. ๐Ÿค”

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

I'll also down vote anyone using up votes as some kind of metric for their post/comment being inherently right/good

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Mine wasn't.

Communities trying to have alternate meanings for upvotes/downvotes must keep in mind that people scrolling posts across communities won't generally notice the community and if they do they won't read the rules and will vote however they want. Trying to force them to follow some silly community specific process is tilting at windmills and bitching about it is embarrassing.

[-] Walk_blesseD 32 points 2 months ago

Fr like if you don't like the way people are using the downvote feature why make a post whinging about it and not just make your account on an instance that has it disabled???

[-] donuts@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

aren't they the instance admin themselves?

[-] Kierunkowy74@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago

Indeed, and this is a pinned post on Ye Power Trippin' Bastards. Posters ask if their bans were justified. Downvotes bury the post, preventing an audience from making their opinion about it.

[-] Walk_blesseD 5 points 2 months ago

Even funnier tbh

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

Sadly one can't disable downvotes per community

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[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Because it has a legit use. It's just also used to create an echo chamber.

If you believe that people can be just a little responsible, it's better to have it around.

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 28 points 2 months ago

Well, just add a 'disagree' button so there's no confusion.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

That's just the Uber disagree button now.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Yes they are. No matter the intent that is what they are.

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 8 points 2 months ago

Spot on. Upvotes/downvotes are for voting on the quality of comment only in theory. In practice, they are agree/disagree buttons.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Earnest question- what is it supposed to be used for? I don't downvote people very often, but I think I've only ever seen it used express approval or disapproval so that the score reflects community sentiment

How is it supposed to be used?

[-] HereIAm@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

In addition to what others said, in comments the down vote is meant to be used on comments that don't further discussion in good faith.

I used to subscribe to that idea, but I've since changed my mind. If the far majority use upvotes to mean agreement, then me upvoting a controversial, but well structured, opinion will likely be viewed as agreement as well.

It's a nice idea to think the voting system is meant to promote discussion, instead of homogenise opinions in a community.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, that's kind of the nature of communication I think, and ultimately votes are a form of communication :/

If people understand them to mean agreement or disagreement, that's the message they'll recieve regardless of whether it was the message that you were trying to send.

I guess if I wanna convey I appreciate someone's contribution even though I don't share their perspective I can always leave a comment; that seems like something I'd appreciate seeing in my inbox so maybe it's worthwhile for me to make that a habit

[-] HereIAm@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah that's something I do sometimes as well. I usually just don't vote on a comment as a third option for when I disagree with them, but don't want to punish having a different viewpoint ^^

[-] dch82@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

when a post doesn't fit the community purpose or is generally inappropriate

[-] olsplasher@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago

Isn't that where you use the report functionality?

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[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

This post does not present the requisite context, which is that this community is a bit special in comparison to others. Read the sidebar text where it explains more how the mod wants people to use it differently. On Reddit there were some others like that, e.g. CMV, and had different-styled icons to help people realize that - before the days where people just expected every single sub to function identically so that they could bother not reading the sub rules before posting or commenting in it.

e.g.:

Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.

[-] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

It's a tool for curating the content, upvote posts you want people to see, and downvote those you think should be hidden. So stuff that's irrelevant, factually incorrect, pointless, inflammatory etc.

Thinking that something should be hidden just because you disagree with it is problematic.

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

Ok but even if its for something else everyone else is still using it for that. And on another note, why shouldnt i use it to show disapproval?

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

However you want to use it.

[-] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago
[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago

As a rule of thumb I downvote any post that mentions being downvoted or complains about the reaction to a post or comment.

I will give this whole thread a pass, though ๐Ÿ™‚

[-] tejan@hubzilla.monster 13 points 2 months ago

I always thought a downvote was just a silent "Booooooooooo!"

[-] zqps@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's what it should be, a "booo!" for lazy and willfully ignorant comments.

In practice most people downvote any take they disagree with, no matter if it was expressed well, written respectfully, and contributes to the conversation.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago

I couldn't even post an album there because the instance apparently sees external imgur albums as image spam or something stupid.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

That's not true. What kind of error are you getting?

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago

It is true, you can literally check for yourself. And there is no error. I didn't even see it as removed from my side on mbin, like with a mod removal, and thought it wasn't federating as there was neither upvotes, nor downvotes, nor comments, until I checked the modlog on your instance.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog/961853?page=1&actionType=All&userId=7088902

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

This is because you linked multiple images in the same post and you got marked as spam. Just link one album link

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago

I linked 1 album with IIRC 5 images as the thread submission, and a link to a screencap of the modlog, along with some links to the relevant posts and stuff in the body. What exactly was the spam part about this that deserved to be flagged?

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

There was a persistent spam wave where they followed similar behaviour of posting too many image links. I can't see the exact rule now but I'll try to review later to see why you were caught as a false positive

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

The post links are badly formatted. Can you try reposting it but make each link be a proper hyperlink on the text? I want to see if it happen again. I think it's because of too many @ signs, whbich was what the spam bot was doing to ping mastodon users

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[-] scott@authorship.studio 7 points 2 months ago

It would be interesting to see how people would behave if you had both a "Disagree" and a "Low Quality" button. Would it make any difference, or would people who dislike it also hit the low quality button out of spite?

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I think this kind of voting system intentionally places the content people want to see (i.e. agree with), at the top which increases active users.

But it doesn't stimulate healthy debate and definitely doesn't encourage going against the mainstream.

Slashdot had a more interesting system that let only a select number of people rank quality and set a post category (like funny, informative, etc).

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I think it's a nice sentiment, but you can't change emergent behavior just by saying "this is wrong"

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

This is wrong.

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

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