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[-] scoobford@lemmy.zip 102 points 2 months ago

You're forgetting the part where on her deathbed, she doesn't think about her husband she spent decades with, or her children, or her family at all. She thinks about a random homeless guy she fucked as a rebellious teen.

Absolute cinema.

[-] GiveOver@feddit.uk 7 points 2 months ago

At least she throws a priceless diamond necklace into the sea to honour all the poor people that died

[-] kofe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I remember thinking she had dropped it on accident and felt bad for her when I first saw it as a kid. She made a little "oh!" with a look of what I thought was surprise

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[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

At the time titanic came out, romcoms really hit peak it seems. And i watched a bunch of them. Being 14, i had no idea about life in general, and always assumed people get married some time after the movie ends and they found each other. In most movies it's fucking ridiculous. You watch two people fall in love who realistically talked to each other for an hour in real time.

[-] anonymouse2@sh.itjust.works 71 points 2 months ago

Technically, he froze to death.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago

Technical there was room for two on that door

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago

Everyone is all "actually it would be impossible" like this bitch did math before telling the guy to go fuck himself.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Only if they both had the knowledge and frame of mind to engi her flotation devices from the life vest rose was wearing. Otherwise the door would have sunk enough for them to freeze to death before rescue came. Provides they knew rescue was coming after a certain time.

Considering one was a socialite, and the other a freelance artist, and both had just almost been killed multiple times... no, I don't think they would have had the foresight to come up with the exact scenario that would have saved them both.

[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago
[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Room for 2? Maybe. Buoyancy for 2? No.

[-] rustydomino@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There is a Mythbusters episode on this. Rose literally and figuratively fucked Jack.

https://youtu.be/IPDxtclZzVU?si=73q9yJst9eaD8_wM

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I don't recall the full episode but a few things stood out.

  • it would be cold as hel, so properly strapping a lifevest around some flotsam seems iffy
  • isn't saltwater more buoyant or is that old fishwife's tale? Also idk if that test body of water is salty.
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[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Only if they had the knowledge and abilities (and time to come up with a plan) of two people whose job it is to come up with exactly this kind of thing.

Sure, it was possible. That doesn't make it probable.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

"Climb on the door" seems like something within their knowledge and abilities.

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[-] Tin 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Cameron tested this. There was room for both on the door, but only in a very specific orientation could they both stay dry. And because she was wearing more clothes than he was, even if Jack makes it out of the water, he's still hypothermic and won't survive.

Edit: It's a NatGeo doc called "Titanic: 25 years later." They're in a pool that's 56 degrees F. You can find it on streaming someplace, but here's a clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEJph0aIP-U

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago

I saw that movie with my dad, who spent years reading about the Titanic because he took an interest in it for some reason.

I'm not sure which one of us hated that movie more.

I'm glad that people are looking back on it these days and realizing it was just not a good movie.

If you want to see a good Titanic movie, check out A Night to Remember, made in the UK in 1958. Sure, it won't have the dazzling special effects. It also doesn't have a stupid as fuck plot.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

If you want to see a good Titanic movie, check out A Night to Remember, made in the UK in 1958. Sure, it won’t have the dazzling special effects. It also doesn’t have a stupid as fuck plot.

Did it have a dude bouncing off a propeller while emitting the Wilhelm Scream? I didn't think so.

[-] Tin 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you take out the Jack/Rose love story and add some of the Californian's scenes and a bit in the wireless room, you could edit Cameron's Titanic down to a pretty good remake of A Night to Remember. He was clearly influenced by it, some scenes are lifted straight from the ANtR narrative even though they are known to be inaccurate (Andrews in the first class smoking room, Smith on the bridge as the ship goes down come to mind).

I like the Cameron Titanic, actually. The love story notwithstanding, it's well worth watching for his attention to detail. The reconstruction of the ship was meticulous, and with a few notable exceptions for dramatic license, the account of the sinking is quite accurate (for the information we had at the time - we now know the breakup is incorrect, but at the time it was the best theory) and contains quite a few easter eggs for Titanic nerds. (like me)

That said... I love A Night to Remember and watch it every year on the anniversary of the sinking. The book is well worth reading, too. Walter Lord assembled his narrative based on correspondence with as many survivors as he could reach - often verbatim as they told it, and it's really a riveting read.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Funny, I recommended A Night to Remember elsewhere in this post as a far better film.

Anyway, I agree with you on the detail. It was very impressive. I just won't sit through the film to watch it when I can watch A Night to Remember, even if they didn't know certain details, like the ship splitting in half.

[-] Tin 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I haven't actually sat down to watch the 1997 Titanic in a long time, for that reason. A Night to Remember exists. 1997 Titanic breaks in half, but in the wrong place, so they're both wrong about it ;)

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Being a huge nerd on certain topics tend to ruin the fun of watching movies.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

True, but I was not a nerd on the topic. I just thought it was stupid to shoehorn a boring forbidden love subplot into a movie about the most famous fucking ship sinking of all time as if that alone wasn't dramatic enough.

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[-] scytale@lemm.ee 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I also wasted an entire ship’s manhours and fuel to look for something I had in my pocket all along.

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[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you watch Titanic in reverse it's about a sad lady floating on a door who idly fishes a cute boy out of the ocean and brings him onto a big fancy steamship that has conveniently sprouted up over by an iceberg, where they have steamy no-strings vacation sex until they split up because they each find new boyfriends on the ship they'd rather go to Europe with.

[-] Strobelt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

A much better movie!

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

The titanic is far better as an engineering failure story.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

I prefer it as a "lol, as if" hubris from someone that read "The wreck of the Titan, or: Futility"

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, if I was gonna drown, I wouldn't mind hooking up beforehand. Just saying.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

But would you take the time to be a nude artist's model?

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

So romantic!

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[-] scoobford@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

The movie Titanic by James Cameron. It was very highly regarded, but the plot is a woman in her deathbed recounting how she is spending her final moments thinking about a random homeless dude she fucked as a teen and then let drown, instead of her children or husband or...literally anything else.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago

Did we watch the same movie? He tries to get on but it can't hold both of them. That happens in the movie.

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

It's kind of a braindead meme that people use who think they are smarter than they actually are. You can fit an elephant on a door, that doesn't mean it has enough buoyancy to carry it.

It's like that reddit thing where people said that in karate kid, daniel is actually the bad guy and the villain of the movie is the good guy, because they saw a video of a guy who took clips out of context. Okay so you're an expert now on a movie that you clearly haven't seen.

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[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Genuinely thought this was going to be a political meme about Jill Stein until I clicked

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