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[-] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 113 points 1 month ago

Because the world shifted to the right a bunch more regarding sexual content… fucking websites now want you to show your ID in some states to view porn.

I think acclaimed director Paul Verhoeven put it best when he called our country a land full of gleefully violent prudes when people freaked out about his use of sexuality, nudity and people being comfortable naked around members of the opposite sex.

[-] Entropywins@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago

When nudity/sexuality is shown artistically or actually has some depth or place in the story being told, I enjoy it, but 90% of that hollywood shit is hot garbage and I think a lot of folks feel the same.

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

90% of that hollywood shit is hot garbage and I think a lot of folks feel the same.

And who HASN'T been in a situation, watching TV or movie with parents or other polite company, when a sex scene comes on (completely unnecessary to the plot), making everyone uncomfortable. I'd like to think that audience surveys have been taken into account to make Hollywood stop including sex scenes.

[-] MBM@lemmings.world 30 points 1 month ago

It's only uncomfortable if you make it uncomfortable, but if you're all adults it doesn't have to be. Maybe it helps to grow up in a less puritanical country than the US though.

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[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 81 points 1 month ago

What bothers me more is that violence gets a PG rating here, sex gets an X rating. How in the world is it more inappropriate for kids to see people naked than for them to watch someone hack someone else to death? The graphic violence should get a more restricted rating than on screen sex.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

When your nation always needs to be at war, it's helps to repress sexuality and normalize violence. This isn't so much a conspiracy theory, but an observation of an emergence behavior that reinforces itself.

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 66 points 1 month ago

i think it was prevalent before the interwebs because there was largely few places to get porn, and throwing it in a movie meant more eyeballs.

as porn became immediately available in other forms (mostly the internet), the unnecessary scenes could be eliminated as a waste of time and a detraction from plots. they ceased being a reason to draw eyeballs.

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You telling me this wasn't relevant to the plot?

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[-] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago

Bingo. This is 100% the reason, and it’s funny that people assume anything else. When you can just watch porn at any time with no effort, sex scenes are gratuitous and awkward distractions except in rare circumstances.

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[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 63 points 1 month ago

That sex is even considered a vice on the same level as drugs and violence is fucking bonkers.

This graph alone gives legitimacy to this idea. Nudity and sex are completely normal (and necessary) things in life. That something that is needed for everyone reading this to exist being labeled as a vice like violence and drugs is actually disgusting IMHO.

[-] ihatetheworld@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 month ago

My brain just go ..... when random awkward 30 second sex scene happens out of nowhere or they just start making out, kissing and moaning loudly then suddenly we are in the next scene and everything is back to normal. Why?

Unless the film is sexual in nature random full frontal nudity, stray tits, stray ass, visible privates always makes me so confused.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 37 points 1 month ago

It's purely in the film so producers can tell young actresses to get naked for the "job interview" cause it's part of the film.
The fact that those useless sex scenes aren't in films as often anymore is a good sign.

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[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

Okay, but what makes it “random” to you? It’s art. Nudity in art has been around since art began—took a few years off for puritanical reasons, sure, but we’re all human, we all share having a naked body in common. And sex is the most natural thing. So to include it in art is just as natural.

Our attitudes toward it have changed. Why, though? What makes you feel awkward about seeing sex or nudity

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[-] weew@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sex scenes in movies are a combination of this weird shameful "I want to show I'm having sex but I can't actually show it" and "It's almost like porn if you removed all the porn."

You're really stuck in a pointless awkward middle ground that satisfies nobody. And 95% of the time it isn't even plot relevant so you're just wasting time. The decline basically just coincides with internet access to the masses.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

I correlate it with the weird feelings that religion introduced about sex and let Al Pacino speak my feelings in Devil's Advocate:

"let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do? I swear, for His own amusement, His own private cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look, but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow."

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[-] SiEstUbiEst@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago

Wish it was more sex and less violence

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

We are all here because of sex. I think it's outrageous that violence is glorified when there isn't a single person here not made from sex. Ok maybe a few but it's a really small percentage.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 29 points 1 month ago

I remember a bunch of years ago talking about This Film Is Not Yet Rated, and how I thought it was absurd a scene where someone's brains get shot out and they die is ok, but a non-graphic cunnilingus shot was unacceptable. The two people I was talking to, a woman older than me and someone my age, were both like "No that makes total sense. I'd watch a violent movie with my kid but not one with sex in it"

I was like, "You'd rather your kid run around fantasizing about murder than sex?" And they were like "yeah"

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago

Let's make a movie about the creator of the nuclear bomb! We can explore the moral implications, the political drama of communists in the USA during and after WW2, the creations of Los Alamos, the interesting science of...

Random corporate head: "Let's have a sex scene! That will make things interesting!"

[-] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Now I am become death, the destroyer of...... Ooo... titties!

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[-] businessfish 43 points 1 month ago

as an asexual person i find other people's opinions on this interesting. the sex scenes do nothing for me and i'm usually just waiting for them to end but i understand my circumstances are not common. i can only assume that someone who is into sex gets something out of sex scenes, otherwise they wouldn't exist.

what i don't understand is the demonizing of sex scenes in movies. like does everyone only watch movies with their parents/kids? i don't like sex scenes due to my asexuality and i'm glad that there are few of them because this cultural shift benefits me specifically (who has never been in the target demographic) in a roundabout way. but i wouldn't say they are all gross/unnecessary/graphic/etc as a blanket statement like i see people in this thread and other places online say. art doesn't need to be for everyone.

[-] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As a sexual person sex scenes do nothing to me either and feel like time lost for the actual plot.

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[-] earth_walker@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

It's kind of a bummer as it's nice to have a more artistic representation of sex outside of porn which is more of a commodity. Movies can connect the sexy scenes to the non-sexy scenes which potentially makes them more powerful. Also, movies can tie moral value to sex which is interesting to explore.

I am in favor of sex in movies making a comeback, as long as it doesn't create problems for the actors.

[-] GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

I think a lot of times the scenes are still done heavily through a male gaze. You'll see more frontal of her than you ever will of a man.

Sex in movies always felt awkward because usually it's a plot device to push the male character's story, a 'reward' for the male character... Or just one of many sexual assault scenes bestowed on nearly every female character ever because "DRAMA."

Not all sex scenes are like this, but a LOT of sex scenes are like this.

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[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 month ago

Three grey value lines is stupid.

Don't be stupid.

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[-] SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 month ago

No wonder, American puritanism is at a record high.

[-] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

No, it's not. Has everything to do with sex scenes not adding anything of value to a film.

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[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

Jesus tap dancing christ.

WE HAVE PORN! INFINITE PORN!! 24/7 IN OUR POCKETS!!!

We used to find sex on film exciting, now if we get turned on we pause Netflix and hit the real stuff.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

Incline if use of shades of greys in diagrams instead of easily identifiable colours: up 500%

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[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

Good. I watch movies to be absorbed by the story, not to see tits.

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[-] rickdg@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

Rise of sex in TV series 📈

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[-] freeman@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago

It's due to easier accessibility to porn. It both reduces demand for the relatively timid sex scenes in films and also reduces their edginess/shock value.

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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Sex scenes were usually forced in by people screaming sex sells. These days there are different ways to see breasts than going to a cinema.

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[-] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 26 points 1 month ago

Tv shows took the sex thing

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[-] shrodes@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

I wonder how much of this correlates with the rise of intimacy coordinators. I’m sure there are productions that think it’s not worth the investment so they just scrap the scene and have it take place off camera etc.

And perhaps a rise in actors not wanting to have their stuff on the internet forever now (even more so with the rise of AI training)

[-] Granite@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

I wonder how much of this is because Disney owns everything.

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[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

It basically moved to TV instead. Wonder how that statistic compares if they're counted together.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

I'm guessing it's because the highest grossing films are now just slop trying to appeal to the widest demographic possible, so if they include sex, the are excluding families from seeing the film.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/

Not just sex but the sexual tension/chemistry or whatever you wanna call it.

One example is Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst in Spider-man trilogy vs Tom Holland and Zendaya in MCU movies. The former couple dated briefly but broke up before the production of second movie. Second one's are dating for almost 5 years (officially). Yet the Raimi movies have this chemistry that MCU movies lack. The relationship feels like checklist.

Another is Eva Green vs Lea Seydoux in Bond movies.

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[-] oo1@lemmings.world 21 points 1 month ago

"I've I've been waiting for the right time to bring this up, but I feel like we need to address the elephant in the room, no?" . . . "where's the dong?"

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[-] i_dont_want_to 20 points 1 month ago

Is the spike in the early 2000's from the cinematic masterpiece The Room? Three sex scenes in the span of like 15 minutes, ooh la la.

Seriously though, as much of a horndog I can be, I like the decline of random sex scenes in movies. Very rarely added anything to the story for me. I'm not a fan of violence, but fortunately it's not too hard to avoid.

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[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Early 2000s were full of horny teen films.

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[-] wabafee@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Watching with your family kinda makes it awkward with some random sex scene out of nowhere.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 50 points 1 month ago

But the kids love seeing people being stabbed and shot and torn apart, right?

We should be more comfortable with tits and ass than guns. We're not and that's a problem.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Still got a pretty good body count, though. Can’t have a sex scene, but films of virtually non -stop violence is cool.

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[-] VerilyFemme 18 points 1 month ago

The kids who watched Titanic with their parents are growing up and making movies now

[-] ryan213@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago

Because it's been done so many times and it's mostly just cheesy stuff. There's really no new way to show people having sex in movies/shows.

Sex in movies peaked in Team America. You know the one.

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[-] Camzing@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago
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