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A battalion of 3,000 North Korean soldiers will shortly join Russian troops in fighting Ukraine, marking Pyongyang’s full entry into the war.

Intelligence sources said the unit has been secretly training in Russia’s Far East ahead of deployment as part of a Russian airborne regiment.

“They are called the Buryat Battalion,” a senior Ukrainian military source told Politico. Buryatia is a remote region of Russia bordering Mongolia that the Kremlin has targeted heavily for military recruitment.

The Kyiv Independent quoted another Western intelligence source claiming that North Korea had sent 10,000 soldiers to join the Russian army.

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[-] Saff@lemmy.ml 81 points 22 hours ago

Any North Korean soldiers captured should be held prisoner in some Scandinavian prison and fed nothing but the most decadent and tasty foods. Then when the war is over send them back to NK fatter than Kim Jon Un. That would be a real power play.

[-] interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works 51 points 22 hours ago

You can't serve Scandinavian food to prisonners it is forbidden by the Geneva convention.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago

There's more to Scandinavian food than lutefisk, y'know.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 14 hours ago

Married into a Scandinavian family. Scandinavian baked goods are amazing.

[-] lengau@midwest.social 38 points 22 hours ago

If meatballs and mashed potatoes with lingonberry sauce are against the Geneva convention it's probably time we had on Oslo convention.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Smorgasbord all day every day would be Tortute!

[-] EpeeGnome@lemm.ee 4 points 14 hours ago

You're thinking of Scandinavian regional delicacies and certain seasonal special dishes, none of which I've ever had the misfortune of smelling, and serving those to prisoners does sound pretty inhumane. All Scandinavian food outside of those that I I've tried or heard of tasted or sounded delicious.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

Because it causes Stockholm syndrome?

[-] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

I was kind of on board with that idea, but now i'm100% on board

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 23 points 21 hours ago

Soooo… is it a world war yet?

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 10 hours ago

No, but the anthems are playing and the players are doing a warm up.

Captain Blackadder : You see, Baldrick, in order to prevent war in Europe, two superblocs developed: us, the French and the Russians on one side, and the Germans and Austro-Hungary on the other. The idea was to have two vast opposing armies, each acting as the other's deterrent. That way there could never be a war.

Private Baldrick : But, this is a sort of a war, isn't it, sir?

Captain Blackadder : Yes, that's right. You see, there was a tiny flaw in the plan.

Private Baldrick : What was that, sir?

Captain Blackadder : It was bollocks.

[-] TomAwsm@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Concepts of a world war.

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 26 points 18 hours ago

World special military operation

[-] rammer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 19 hours ago

No, but getting there.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

World scuffle

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

What Russia likes about North Korean Soldiers in Ukraine: Manpower!

What North Korea likes about North Korean Soldiers in Ukraine: Money!

What North Korean Soldiers like about North Korean Soldiers in Ukraine: Freedom!

[-] abbiistabbii 21 points 21 hours ago

You can tell Russia's desperate because they've got the North Koreans involved.

[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 30 points 23 hours ago

With the current attrition rate of Russian forces, these 3K troops will likely be expended in ~2.3 days..

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

The great Russian army. The great russian army with the best weapons and tanks and soldiers.

What a paper tiger.

BTW it's rumored that they are running out of both tanks and bmps. If trump doesn't win (if he does, it will just take longer) the whole russia will collapse like the soviet union did in 1991. The ruble is already in free fall, inflation at 20%, the economy is overheating and fewer and fewer young people left to work or be killed.

I just hope it crumbles as soon as possible but I guess this insane war has to drag on for some 6 months to a year.

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 20 points 23 hours ago

BTW it’s rumored that they are running out of both tanks and bmps.

I feel like people have been saying this for about 2 years. We should believe it when we see it.

[-] derGottesknecht@feddit.org 8 points 22 hours ago

Look Up covert cabal on YouTube. He works together with a guy called himarsed to painstakingly count tanks, bumps and other stuff on commercial satellite imagery and regularly posts updates on the Russian arsenals. And they are pretty empty now

[-] aggelalex@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

What a great opportunity for those north Koreans to defect to Europe

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago

Lmao, I just saw an article on here about NK soldiers abandoning the front lines. That didn't last long

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 32 points 1 day ago

Why fight die for some other country's pointless war? If I was there, I'd leave, too.

I'd also encourage any US troops who are sent off to fight for Israel in the future to do the same lol.

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 19 points 1 day ago

Because someone's watching you with a gun to your head. Deserting is hard

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

But also you're holding a gun.

[-] Mad_Punda@feddit.org 4 points 19 hours ago

Because your family back home will be in for it.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

Ah but Russia isn't keeping track of its own losses anyway, easy to slip away and they assume you're dead.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 103 points 1 day ago

Ok, it's only fair if Poland gets to join too.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

Better give Poland some nukes for parity

[-] Montagge@lemmy.zip 59 points 1 day ago

If the invasion of Ukraine hasn't taught everyone that the only way to not get invaded is to have nukes I don't know what will.

Seriously - I’m genuinely baffled at the complete geopolitical ineptitude that occurred in 2014. It was a categorical abrogation of the Budapest Memorandum, which guaranteed Ukrainian territorial integrity and sovereignty in exchange for their surrender of old Soviet nukes based in their territory.

Nobody is going to make a deal like that going forward. The nuclear non-proliferation movement is entirely dead. Nukes are, categorically, the absolute final word in guaranteeing a country’s territorial integrity and sovereignty. There is no substitute. Genuinely, the complete and total lack of meaningful action in the defense of Ukraine was the most apocalyptically stupid geopolitical move that Obama and Merkel made during their stints as leaders of the western world.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 14 hours ago

I hate that you're right.

Nah, it was second behind the invasion of Iraq and the forever war in Afghanistan. The US's unwillingness to react was in large part because it had been weakened by a decade of idiotic wars in the Middle East. Europe has no excuse though.

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

We invaded Iraq ~5 years before Obama was elected....

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[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

Honestly, no it's also done the opposite. Ukraine has passed so many of Russia's "red lines" that it shows nukes are useless too. The only time a nuke is useful is when you've already lost. If you use one then you get a lot of other groups attacking you, and potentially you get nuked yourself. You can't actually really use one in defence.

The only way to not be invaded is to be stronger than your potential opponents. Si vis pacem, para bellum. (If you want peace, prepare for war.)

[-] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Russia has some odd game theory incentives because their nukes probably haven't been well maintained. Now, the rest of the world has to assume they work. The consequences of being wrong about that are too great. However, if Russia actually launched a nuke and it fizzles, that's a pretty good indication that their nukes don't work in general. It's therefore in Russia's best interest to keep pretending that it will launch a nuke, but never do it because that would remove all doubt.

And then they're fucked. With the nuclear taboo broken--fizzle or not--nobody will complain when NATO gets directly involved in conventional ways.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago

Ukraine's about to get a lot of defectors...

[-] sqibkw@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately many North Koreans already leave the country to work as slaves for construction companies, factories, etc (including in Europe). Generally they only allow people out who have families back home to be tortured/killed in case they defect.

They will probably get some, but less than you might expect.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

There's a pretty big difference between construction work and human wave tactics in a warzone. Different levels of motivation to defect.

[-] ammonium@lemmy.world 25 points 23 hours ago

And different opportunities, going MIA on a construction site is suspicious, but during war? Who can tell whether they defected or died?

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

If Putin does something stupid that elicits a direct response from the U.S., Kim will regret going all-in on this. We could use a good excuse to make the NK problem go away.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

I wonder how many of them are going to just defect?

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