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Personally, I don't* but I was curious what others think.

^*^some sandwiches excluded like a Cubano or chicken parm; those do require cooking.

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[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 1 points 50 minutes ago

It you cook the sandwich, the bread, or any part of the filling, yes. If you toast your bread and warm up your ingredients in a pan, why not ? But if you are just cuting and filling. You're assembling a sandwich, not cooking it.

[-] psilotop@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

It's only cooking if it's done in the Cooke region governed by the Earle of Sandwich. Anything else is sparkling food preparation.

[-] pixeltree 1 points 10 hours ago

I would say you're making food, not cooking, but like, who cares? If someone says I'm cooking lunch and then comes out with sandwiches I wouldn't really notice it doesn't make sense, but if you say I'm cooking a sandwich, that pokes my brain in the incorrect language department

[-] rapadura@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

Cooking is a process of transformation, both physical and symbolic. Combining ingredients intentionally to create something flavorful and nutritious, making a sandwich certainly falls under the act of cooking.

[-] Corno@lemm.ee 34 points 1 day ago
[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

How much needs to be heated? If I toast the bread but not the other ingredients, then clearly I did cook by that definition, yeah?

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago

Cooking (in the English I was taught) involves the application of heat - frying, baking, roasting, boiling etc are the names for specific ways to do this. A sandwich would be made or prepared.

[-] tiddy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

Some go as far as saying cooking requires a chemical change, else youre just heating

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Yeah - an application of heat to create a chemical change. You’re correct there. My answer was incomplete.

[-] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Just for the heck of it, if you heat protein enough to denature it but have no Maillard reaction (let's say you've just made a hard boiled egg), would that not be considered cooking by that definition?

My understanding is that denaturing is a physical structure change, not a chemical one (and according to Wikipedia can be reversible in some cases), not a biochemist or food scientist though so totally accepting that my understanding is incorrect/incomplete.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

If you cook it, like a grilled cheese, then yes. Otherwise, it’s sandwich arts.

[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago
[-] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 64 points 2 days ago

I don't think it's cooking unless you are applying heat to cause a chemical reaction. So, making a grilled cheese sandwich counts as cooking, but a BP&J does not.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago

Making ceviche or sushi officially not cooking confirmed - how dare those posers call themselves sushi chefs.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The acid from the lime is doing the cooking in ceviche.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I agree - and it specifically isn't doing so through an application of heat.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 45 points 2 days ago

gotta cook the rice for sushi. checkmate.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

Sashimi: do I not even exist, bro?

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Slap a whole fish down in front of you.

You: "Not cooked"

slice fillet of fish off and present it.

You: "Not cooked"

slice fillet into small bite size pieces and squirt some neon green horseradish next to it

You: "Dis is cooked!"

?

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[-] SARGE@startrek.website 13 points 2 days ago

I think of a chef as a "preparer of food" not necessarily "food cooker"

So sushi chef is still accurate to their opinion, disclaimer I agree with them so I could always be rationalizing it.

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

chef is french for chief. they are the head of the kitchen.

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[-] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 10 points 2 days ago

Some of the constituent ingredients have to be cooked, but ceviches and sushi rolls aren't cooked any more than salads or burritos. They're assembled or prepared.

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[-] obinice@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

No, it's food preparation but nothing is being cooked.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

Nope. In English, if it doesn't involve the application of heat, you ain't cooking, you're preparing, making, or other terminology.

[-] LordGimp@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

So toasting a sammich is cooking, but making the sammich isn't?

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Pretty much, yeah. Same as grilling a burger and putting it on bread is cooking despite the bread being pre-made.

Afaik, cooking isn't limited to applying heat to raw foods.

Might be worth saying that I don't remember which dictionary the definition came from, and that dictionaries only record language, they don't prevent changes over time. Which means that usage could have changed enough since the last time I looked at any, and now have a different usage added

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

The specific language you speak has significant impact here. For some, "to make food* is used to refer to cooking. Where as in English it's not so clear. I prefer the use in terms of survival. IMO, if you can make any food enough to survive you can cook, because in English there is not a better colloquial verb. Though i wouldn't call you 'a cook' or 'a chef' if you can't apply heat to produce edible food from raw.

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[-] Entertainmeonly 5 points 1 day ago

The question is inadequatly phrased. You must describe what kind of sandwich we are speaking of. Unless op is speaking about cold sandwiches exclusively, many sandwiches require cooking.

Croque Monsieur

Grilled Cheese

Cubano

Monte Cristo

Panini

These are just a few that I came up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more.

[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago

The word cooking, to me, means using heat with a stove. Baking is for the oven. Grilling, is outside on a grill. But a sandwich is only ever "made" in my house. "Will you make me a sandwich?", "I'm making a sandwich"

Good question though. Never thought about it.

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[-] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

No one ever says "I'm cooking a sandwich"

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[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

IMO, assembling a sandwich from ready-to-eat ingredients without using a stove, oven, microwave, etc. is meal prep, not cooking. If you roast, saute, toast, smoke, or even zap any part of it, now you're cookin'. (Though zapping might just be reheating something that was cooked previously. Ugh, this is more complicated than it should be. English can be frustrating.)

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

Personally I'd define cooking as something that creates an irreversible physical or chemical change using heat.

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[-] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 11 points 2 days ago

Depends on the sandwich. If you're constructing a sandwich without using heat, I would consider that "making lunch" or "making dinner" but not explicitly cooking. I'm not sure that the difference matters in any significant situations, though. Why are you asking?

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 12 points 2 days ago

Why are you asking?

Boredom.

[-] lolola 14 points 2 days ago
[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Cooking is simply the preparing of food.

It doesn’t necessarily require the application of heat.

If some one is being proud of a sandwich- let them be proud. We all start somewhere.

edit: to all the people downvoting me: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/cooking

  1. the act of a person or thing that cooks.
  2. the art or practice of preparing food; cookery.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cooking

1A) the act of preparing food for eating, especially by heating 1B) a manner of preparing food

To say that "cooking" requires heat is inaccurate. It's the usual qualification, but is not necessary in a general sense.

and more to the point: If some one is proud of their sandwich, why would you take that from them? dick move. Even Gordon Fucking Ramsey had to start somewhere.

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