It's really more like Remote Desktop+. It has some additional "features" (slight retch) on top of traditional Remote Desktop features.
Let's wait and see if it's actually more secure than traditional Remote Desktop.
(and I'd still rather use Wine)
Did they invent X11 Forwarding over the network?
Btw. when we get wayland forwarding over Network?
waypipe exists, but it's still not perfect.
Never heard about this. Thx.
Btw. when we get wayland ~~forwarding over Network~~?
/c/foundthenvidiauser
Unlike X11, Wayland was never intended to be network transparent. As others say, solutions like waypipe and more tradionally RDP and VNC exist.
Exactly. We won’t. We’ll get specialized video stream over network. I’m not happy about this regression. I understand that was a willing sacrifice to achieve better local performance, but I’m not sure it was worth it.
Their reasoning was that X11 network transparency had been broken for quite some time. If you tried running chrome, most games, or anything with modern hardware acceleration over X11 forwarding, they wouldn't work.
So, IMHO waypipe is actually an improvement in terms of compatibility, rather than a regression.
You always had the option to send frames over the net using VNC and such. But for many use cases, X over SSH was absolutely fantastic.
I remember using it on a very basic DSL connection to work remotely back in 2005, and it was almost like running local. You don’t get anywhere near the same performance with VNC or RDP.
X11 can render individual windows (Xclients) through the network on another Xserver since decades. With XPRA you can even buffer them, to move them from one Xserver to another or make sure they survive network disconnect. It's very cool, but not widely used.
Yes, the ssh -X flag forwards it.
I doubt it's nearly as secure as OpenSSH though.
it goes through an SSH tunnel
Bottles and boxes are basically the Windows app.
No, it's just remote. Remote desktop is now also called Windows, also the operating system you are connecting to is called Windows.
Gnome has relatively good rdp support, so with this you could use Windows (the app) on Windows (the os) to connect to you Linux machine running Gnome.
It seems deliberately confusing naming is working as expected, Microsoft marketing team should get extra raise.
Microsoft strategy 101. My “favourite” is the database called “SQL Server”
I thought this was dumb as fuck, but I think I understand what Microsoft is trying to do here.
What might not be obvious is that this "Windows" app is for iOS, Android and Linux - yes, it's a replacement for remote desktop but it's specifically a remote desktop app to connect to Windows machines.
So while I still this this rebranding is entirely unnecessary, I can see that they are trying to clearly distinguish "I'm not on windows and I need to do something on windows so I'll use the windows app for that" .
It also means less confusion when "remote desktop" doesn't let you connect to your Mac or whatever.
One year from now: web search "Windows App broken" and then starting cutting myself.
Something tells me the community forums will still refer to it as remote desktop or RDP anyway
As I understood this is some remote running layer, while WINE is an emulator.
WINE is an emulator.
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Wine Is Nothing but an Emulator
Oh dear cheddar, what does WINE stand for?
I was like, this has to be fake. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/09/microsoft-releases-a-new-windows-app-called-windows-app-for-running-windows-apps/
HyperV4every1 version whateverthefuckitis
But not all Windows apps can be run via Wine, at least some apps related to some tools I’ve had to use were not available
Let me guess? CLOUD VMS? "Emulation" tries the most generic app: Doesnt work. Office apps will be the only functioning apps.
To be fair MS Office fully working on Linux is about the only thing we really need to make it completely viable for businesses.
The Desktop apps will be replaced with web apps ASAP anyway. Well, I think, as soon they think they have ported enough of the features to the web version.
Are there native arm versions, or are those already webViews?
The main problem is Excel, TBH. Far too much stuff depends on Windows-only features of Excel (e.g. macros using COM objects).
Sounds awful lot like Citrix...
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