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[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 87 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago

I'm at a point where I think he's more useful alive than dead. I feel like he's ALREADY going to lose 2024. I'm a little baffled that it's even a close race at all, but I'm still confident that between the debate, and the Taylor Swift endorsement he's dug his own grave. And with that, it means he lost 2020 election, and the 2024 election. Would the GOP really endorse a 2X loser in 2028?

I think him being alive forces them to support their own self made loser. And now even fox news is calling him a loser.

He likes to say things like "they're laughing at us!"

No. They're laughing at YOU trump. You are a laughing stock. Not the country. Not the democrats. Not anybody else but you. You are a loser, soon to be a two time loser, with two impeachments and 34 convictions. Nobody in American history loses bigger than you donald trump.

[-] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

If he's alive they will endorse him. There's someone pulling the strings in the Republican party, I'd guess Putin. Republicans used to be the regular kind of horrible, now they're just repugnant and evil. Trump is the perfect figurehead.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

And he keeps losing. That's my point. If he were dead, they might find someone who would/could actually win. Because let's face it, Harris isn't exactly everybodies first choice. She was kind of the only thing left once it became blatantly clear that Biden wasn't going to be the 2024 nominee.

So, if trump is alive, trump runs, democrats win. That makes trump more useful alive than dead.

But I don't think putin/GOP would be stupid enough to run him a 4th time.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm pretty certain he'll be dead in four years, especially if he loses the election.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 weeks ago

Dead or fully brain dead. So many Alzheimer’s symptoms and he’s about to turn 80. It goes fast once it starts (and it probably started 10 years ago).

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

No. They're laughing at YOU trump. You are a laughing stock. Not the country.

The country is also a laughing stock but yes Trump is a big part of it

[-] uienia@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, Trump has already been president once. There is no escaping being a laughing stock country after that one.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Alive he can go down in ignominy and we can move past him. Dead, he would be a martyr and would never leave America's conscience.

I was a toddler when Nixon went down, but I heard what my parents had to say and combined that with what I've learned of history. Nixon was very popular, but once he went down he was like Voldemort, the one who shall not be named.

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

I'm just glad this fucker is old. Could you imagine if we had to put up with this shit for 20 more years?

He's done regardless after this run.

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hopefully. I said the same thing back in 2020, figured he'd be dead by now

And hopefully this Vance guy doesn't stick around, either, because he would be a pain in the ass for 20 years.

[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 70 points 3 weeks ago

Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement, "There is no place in this country for political violence of any kind."

Unless it is against the people, minorities, poor countries, or whistleblowers.

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago

All violence is political violence.

[-] Hope@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Heck, in the US I'd almost say all politics is political violence. It seems that anytime you advocate for nonviolence here you're called naive at best, murdered at worst. Plus, our whole society was built in blood.

[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

And religion is politics or a form of control also.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 14 points 3 weeks ago

I guess there is a place for violence in Gaza then.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Democrats: "We don't count that as political violence, because political violence is between people, and we don't count Gazans as people"

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

How do you think Republicans feel about Palestinians?

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't think Republicans feel. They approximate the social rituals that allow them access to society (and its benefits) in the same way high functioning sociopaths do, more or less.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think it's not relevant.

[-] hungryphrog 4 points 3 weeks ago

No, no, no, it only counts as violence when it's punching up! Bombing children and beating the people who say you shouldn't do that is a totally different thing!

[-] leraje 5 points 3 weeks ago

But inciting violence politically is, judging by recent events, absolutely fine.

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

*As long as it's Donald Trump inciting aforementioned violence

*And as long as it's violence on his former VP and the members of the Senate who will bend a knee to him no matter what

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago
[-] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 3 weeks ago

Two back to back like this? My tin foil hat money is that Loomer is angling to get Trump to divorce Melania then elope with her. Eric Jr knows that his dad will do it and is terrified of getting cut out of the will once Loomer gets her hooks in Trumps dementia riddled ass, so he’s hiring people to kill his dad before the inheritance can get fucked with. I can’t come up with any other reason we’ve had such poor assassination attempts so quickly like this. The bumbling foolishness has Jr fingerprints all over it.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago

Now that's a conspiracy theory! Way better than the ludicrous-yet-unimaginative shit the MAGAs come up with.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 weeks ago

it is unclear just how much trump is angry at ivanka and jared for allegedly narcing on them.

But pretty sure even eric and don jr know they are getting dick all. He openly loathes them and it might be his only redeeming quality.

Nah. It is just the nature of being the party of gun nuts while openly failing almost all of their purity tests. We actually saw similar (just to a much lesser degree) when trump said something like "I love vaccines" and was boo'd like crazy.

He is a symptom of the rot. Not the source. And by and large he just tries to ride it as best he can.

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[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 3 weeks ago

How convenient when he's slipping in the polls and had a pretty bad week last week...

How. Convenient.

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 24 points 3 weeks ago

I refuse to believe a person who otherwise wouldn't vote for Trump will vote for Trump because he was shot at.

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I think someone who has been on the verge of converting to Trumpism would vote for him because he was shot at, but nobody that disliked him is gonna start liking him more

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I think it's to rule the news cycle, like that conspiracy loony etc. Anything to make forget about the crazily bad debate he did.

Not saying he invented this "heard gunshots" himself, but that is how it's useful.

[-] colmear@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago

I don’t think the campaigns are about converting people, but more about getting people to care about voting for their candidate. At this point there is just no way people still don’t prefer one candidate over the other

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

So fucking crazy that anyone will repeat something when the only source is "According to the Trump campaign"

[-] hungryphrog 17 points 3 weeks ago
[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Imagine urinals in this shape.

[-] hungryphrog 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'd rather not.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If Satan's asshole had a face

[-] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 32 points 3 weeks ago

So I guess you could say the response was... swift

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

Second attempt just doesn't hit the same

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

No no, the attempt was to hit theother ear. Symmetry.

[-] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 weeks ago

no fkn way.. he got shot at again???

[-] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Nah somebody nearby had a gun and the FBI I think shot at that guy. AFAIK nobody actually got shot and they arrested gun dude on the highway later.

Edit - sorry for bad link, still don’t think i can do relative post links. https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/27862700

Secret service shot at guy, guy had scoped AK and a GoPro when they shot at him apparently. Now I’m wondering if there was a 4chan post recently.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

A Secret Service agent spotted a rifle barrel sticking out of fence and “engaged” with the suspect, Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw said at a news conference late Sunday afternoon. The gunman was 300 to 500 yards away from Trump, a Secret Service official said. Law enforcement found an AK-47 style rifle, GoPro and backpacks where the suspect was positioned, Bradshaw said.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-election-09-15-24/index.html

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

OK, seriously.

AK47s and AR15s are not what you're looking for here. A nice Sako or Weatherby in 6.5 Creedmoor or .300WSM is a much better choice. And make sure your optics are matching the quality of the gun; we're looking for .5MOA or better.

Get your shit together, guys.

[-] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, I had already edited that information in and linked to a lemmy post that itself contained a link to the AP story before you responded. Thanks though I guess?

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Have you met the dude? I'm not at all that the sexist, racist buffoon that repeated a dumb story about pets being eaten rather than asking a question is being shot at. He is a failure in every way.

[-] b161 19 points 3 weeks ago

Swifties don’t play.

[-] hungryphrog 18 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, if you have participated in the plane discourse, you've probably learned that Swifties stop at nothing.

[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Somewhere Howard Dean is wondering how the fuck he was too unhinged to be electable in the face of daily insanity from the orange.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

This post is how I found out about this 2nd attempt.

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