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I can't be the only one who finds this stuff Just the slightest bit revolting, right? Like ... Wow. I'm at a loss for words

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 100 points 1 month ago

This is a big reason why inceldom has risen imo. Not because of the content, but because of groups of men all reinforcing this behavior.

Now, I won't lie, roleplay or imagination is one thing, but going online and normalizing this behavior in public is a very very different. Thing, and changes and normalizes that it's okay to do around real women. Thoughts and behaviors change, and then they wonder why real actual women want nothing to do with them.

In essence, hey if impregnation is your kink, you do you. You talk that way in public? Pretty weird bro.

[-] Buttflapper@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

This is a big reason why inceldom has risen imo

I haven't seen it nearly this bad until this year. This is the worst year I've ever seen for it, and Hoyo games are by far the worst

hey if impregnation is your kink, you do you

It seems like it's worse than that. I've seen people making extremely inappropriate comments about young characters. For example in Zenless Zone Zero subreddit, there are people that post pictures of the young characters that look like children, Piper and a few others that I don't recall off the top of my head. But they are half naked and fan art of them in extremely suggestive positions. Borderline pedophilia but it's a made up fictional character so they claim it doesn't count and it's perfectly fine. Such a strange view on reality

[-] Poayjay@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Not to disagree with anything you’re saying, but I hate the phrase “borderline pedophillia.” Either they’re sexualizing children or not. It’s like saying “non-consensual sex.” There’s no such thing. It’s rape or consensual sex.

[-] Buttflapper@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I hate the phrase “borderline pedophillia.” Either they’re sexualizing children or not.

They hide behind the fact that character age isn't expressly stated anywhere, so it's technically not pedo behavior since it's unknown what age it is. But me personally, I think they're underage.

Example from Zenless subreddit. Piper is a character that looks like she's anywhere from 10 to 15 years of age, and people are posting her half naked.

Here's another post with a very one-sided discussion about NSFW art for characters who are clearly minors, in which the community basically downvotes anyone who tries to voice their opinion that creating erotica and other NSFW art for minors and adolescents is wrong. Truly disgusting behavior, and I'm in disbelief that there's a gaming community out there today like this....

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[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

There IS a difference between reality and fantasy. We see it all the time.

There is an actual fetish for consesual non consent aka rape fantasy/roleplay. If we allow that people routinely engage in fake rape, then why are you surprised if anything else is sexualized. People are weird.

But is it not just as disturbing to you when people glorify violence and gore such as the Saw franchise?

I do not understand the attraction to these things either, but I dont think its healthy to pretend that reality and fantasy cant be separated.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 12 points 1 month ago

and that's the real issue I see, is that in inceldom, the line between fantasy and reality is so blurred that they don't understand the social norms. If r*pe kink is your thing, and your partner and you like to do it, I think that's fine. personally I don't like it, but it's you in your private home and it's your thing, I'm not going to be the one to say not to.

The key though is that there's a hard line between fantasy and reality, and if you start thinking that real, live women want that, that 's a huge red line you crossed, and same with most other things.

Idk, like you said people are weird, and we desperately try to fit them into boxes, and when it comes to sex that's nearly impossible. The key is knowing that what you're into at home is very different than what you do to real people. I'm rambling a bit, but consent is really the thing. Real people need to consent, unlike online fantasies.

[-] Aielman15@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I haven’t seen it nearly this bad until this year. This is the worst year I’ve ever seen for it, and Hoyo games are by far the worst

Congrats for lasting this far. I quit the anime world years ago when it became clear that that shit was becoming the norm, and 95% of products specifically catered to that demographic.

[-] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 month ago

This, by far, was the biggest factor for me quitting anime, but also, it hasn't evolved or changed at all since the 2000s. It's all the same tired tropes and stereotypes. Throw in a few dashes of misogyny and bam, top anime apparently.

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[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 month ago

Not because of the content, but because of groups of men all reinforcing this behavior.

I genuinely know more women than men that act like this. I can't say you're entirely wrong about the problems with normalizing behaviour and the like, but simplifying it to "men are disgusting and know nothing of 'real, actual women" when real, actual women are sometimes equally disgusting is, well concerning.

This particular brand of behaviour is usually about rejection of social norms far more than it is ever about the objectification of women. People who have been rejected by society like to take back the power by rejecting the norms of that society.

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[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 1 month ago

Are you really surprised these gachas attract tons of horny teenage coomers with waifu baiting as a business model?

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[-] missingno@fedia.io 71 points 1 month ago

Games that are in the business of selling anime girls end up attracting a certain demographic. And as the developers know who their audience is and double down on catering to that crowd, this kind of behavior becomes increasingly normalized over time.

[-] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Exhibit A: the hilariously horny official trailer for Jane Doe

[-] CatLikeLemming 10 points 1 month ago

There are feet in the camera's face within... eight seconds. I'm surprised, but I can't say I'm shocked.

Aside from that, it is a curious decision to make the first person camera a woman. I thought their target audience would be young men? It's certainly a larger potential audience than lesbians, although hey, not like I mind that choice ;3

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[-] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

Man, am I glad I grew up with less horny games. Like Tomb raider, Metroid or Shantae.

The real reason is probably that we said comparable stuff, just as whispers and not written in an anonymous forum. And we weren't even egged on by forum culture or our games to be as horny as possible, the former drives engagement while the ladder drives sales.

[-] papertowels@lemmy.one 16 points 1 month ago

I was going to say, there were definitely horny games but you wouldn't talk about them in the open.

Honestly genshin and honkai aren't even that bad. You want a bad one, look at nikke. Ass and titties jiggle physics: the game.

[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I would argue Shantae is definitely horny, the games have some innuendo jokes specially the DSi one.

[-] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, I was just pulling your leg. Being a goofy goober. Why would you read this very specific list of games and think I was earnest?

Tomb raider had infinitely many rumours about a nude-cheat because boys were so thirsting about Lara Croft, while Metroid and Shantae reward fast playthroughs with bikini pics.

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[-] Eggyhead@fedia.io 34 points 1 month ago

I would guess the absurdity is the point. People trying to make each other laugh. If it bothers you, you don’t need to be there.

[-] Buttflapper@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

You say this, but on TikTok people are genuinely so serious when they comment on stuff about the game and Zenless. "I need her bro" or “I'd do anything for her"

[-] Eggyhead@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago

Well then let them. It’s no skin off your back and no one else is actually getting hurt, so just ignore it.

[-] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

Just watch out for those that went too far and negatively impact real people and go off on those ones. It's a waste of your time and effort to go after each dirty joke like this.

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

People went anonymous online and lost all shame.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Some do it just to meme or be funny. Especially ones that make these kinds of posts.

The ones you really have to worry about are the ones that get mad when you mention something about a character that is not accurate. They will publicly execute you. Worry about those ones.

[-] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

I don't know the context of the meme but i guess she doesn't look like that in the game or something? They did their waifu dirty? These jokes seem quite harmless and light.

[-] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

That's the thing, the whole waifu crap.

Like people talk about it as if they're real persons and treat them as such. It's borderline psychotic.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

The thing abaout "waifu culture" is that most people do not actually think or act like fictional anime characters are real people. They do it to troll, or be funny, or act stupid, whatever. Like circlejerk subreddits or other online boards where there is some joke that gets perpetuated that everyone in the community thinks is hilarious but everyone outside thinks is stupid.

Yes, there are a tiny few that do, but not a significant number of people actually think that way.

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[-] anyhow2503@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

This type of behaviour is neither new, nor actively harmful. There's really nothing you, I or anyone else can do to stop it, so the only remaining choice is to ignore it and not post screenshots in different communities where people agree with you.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Average anime community

It's because these games sell their characters on sex appeal

[-] _Sprite@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Average anime sub behavior

[-] whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 month ago

I get an extreme amount of secondhand embarassment reading these comments don't get me wrong but at the end of the day its just some people doing some weird jokes on the internet. Even if the things they say are their actual worldview nearly everyone on the internet lacks the influence in the real world to enforce their worldviews to the masses so what does it matter if they say such stuff on the part of the internet where their kind of people usually hang out. I'd say live and let live in this case. No need to hate your fellow humans just because they hold different opinions than the popular ones or the ones you hold.

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[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No? Welcome to gachas, don't even pretend girls don't want to be put on the wall by their daddies, there are plenty of thirsty traps with the dudes on TikTok.

These are games made to sell you waifus and husbandus, they are appealing by design. I recommend you to watch the newest Jane Doe trailer on the Zenless channel, this is the target demographic.

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago

Fucking weebs.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Man, if I had any illusions about Lemmy being filled with literal children, this thread would clear them right up. Sexual objectification is gross and it does have consequences, y'all.

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[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago

At first, I thought this was a screenshot from Lemmy and thought what the hell. Then I saw that it's Reddit and all my questions got answered. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[-] Summzashi@lemmy.one 19 points 1 month ago

Jus your standard weebs

[-] 30p87@feddit.org 16 points 1 month ago

Ok, but she IS pretty cute. Mainly because of the fluffy ears tho.

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[-] aciDC14@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Horny men will be horny. (And women)

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago
[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 16 points 1 month ago

Why not? This is the internet let people say shit

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

IMO any content that idolizes immature bodies is bound to attract the worst human beings possible, by design.

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

...have you played a Hoyoverse game? They have something for everybody. Femboy, straight, furry, sharks, Ace, we've have it all!

[-] EABOD25@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

You ever had that cringy feeling that you can feel in the back of your neck? That's where I'm at

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

Because they are 14?

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Incels gonna incel

[-] sag@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago
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You'd think the mods would want to remove shit like that because what in the fuck, but I guess not?

[-] Buttflapper@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

They banned me from the subreddit for low karma because I was responding to people telling them how gross those kind of comments were, and that of course decreases your karma. They also remove people's comments if they are not directly praising this kind of behavior. Any sort of controversial comments don't show up there for that exact reason.

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