I'm sure for Windows Pro this isn't accurate. There's no way a business could legally permit this, it's a massive risk.
It's probably just with Windows Home, and I'm sure O&O Shutup already handles it.
A Pro license is worth it just for Group Policy, which provides control over such things.
Do you know this for a fact or are you speculating?
Going by the phrasing I'd say educated guess. I for one agree, it sounds like a massive liability when you have e.g. data protection laws to think about
Why don't they just make a proper OS without all that shit.
Because it's not about making a proper OS. The shit is the point.
They do and it's hard to acquire legitimately. Windows 11 IoT LTSC. Definitely don't waste your time looking for it in massgravedotdev.
Man I'd really like to keep a windows machine around for just for easy gaming but at this point it's too much of a liability.
Not that big of a problem of all you do with it is gaming.
Say you're entering your cc info for an in-game item or a store. Does recall have a way to identify that as sensitive data?
Good point. The Epic store does fuck up often enough that I keep having to reenter my credit card info.
They said the same shit about Edge, I'm still able to rip edge out kicking and screaming and SURPRISE nothing of value is ever lost lol
If you need Windows do yourself a favor and during the installation process choose a European country when it asks what language pack your want to use. I always used English (UK) even though I don't live in the UK and never had to deal with the bullshit people keep talking about.
I'll take HIPPA violations for 1000.
Lol, most hospitals I go into are still on Windows 7 with some stuff still running XP.
Also, most workstations are thin clients
I highly doubt that. Hospitals are required to be on a supported os at this point. Running xp or 7 is literally a HIPPA violation and would cost them millions or more.
It's crazy that no one actually research this at all before getting outraged.
Recall has always been exclusive to "Copilot+ PCs" which are ARM computers with a Snapdragon X series processor.
This won't affect normal computers at all.
System requirements for Recall
Your PC needs the following minimum system requirements for Recall:
A Copilot+ PC 16 GB RAM 8 logical processors 256 GB storage capacity To enable Recall, you’ll need at least 50 GB of storage space free Saving screenshots automatically pauses once the device has less than 25 GB of storage space
Beyond that, this is all speculation based off a single bugfix where they got rid of the ability to uninstall Copilot from the Features menu.
Huge assumptions that it won't be able to be disabled in plenty of other ways. Legally they cannot force this enabled on all devices due to the wide variety of information protection laws the world over.
Ah so it's totally okay for them to spy on people with particular types of computers. So obvious!
I never said that.
I don't like it anymore that anyone else. But people in this thread are acting like recall will be forced upon absolutely everyone. When in reality it's just a very specific type of rare computer that it's available for.
For now.
This is a long play, in 5 - 10 years just about all computers will have it by default.
The only computers without this "feature" will be running the pro / business versions.
Does anybody actually expect this not to become standard over time?
This is just divide and conquer.
Doesn't matter if it's only forced on one user. It's still a fucked up feature that shouldn't be allowed. Interesting to know it's limited in scope though
Just fill up your disk, problem solved!! \s
Modders enabled Recall on non compliant ARM PCs with no AI hardware whatsoever.
Incidentally I just installed a new laptop that came with windows yesterday and damn, windows 11 sucks.
First you have to find a workaround to install without a MS account, then the default Bing search tells you to install Opera when you search for Firefox, I can't find any settings (everything is a regedit hack now) and then I found a debloat script that claims it disabled Recall. So yeah it can be disabled (for now).
Can't wait to see all the hilarious fuck-ups this bullshit will cause.
What are the chances that I, a not particularly tech savvy person, go to download mint and end up bricking my computer?
Honestly, my computer is an absolute bottom of the barrel $200 Dell laptop right now, so it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but I'd hate to fuck it up, get a better computer, and fuck that up too.
If you're capable of booting from a flash drive you're capable of installing Mint.
If you want to keep your Windows environment around for emergencies, you might need to learn a little bit about how to partition a disk, which is about 15 minutes of learning and 5 minutes of doing. Or if you have a second hard drive installed that you want to devote to Linux you don't even need to do the partitioning.
Everyone here is saying it’s easy but nobody is mention that if you have any sort of unforeseen problem it can be a huge headache to fix. For example, let’s say your touchpad doesn’t work correctly. Resolving driver issues with Linux can very easily overwhelm anyone who isn’t tech-savvy and now you’ve put yourself in a situation where you want to reinstall Windows and have to figure that out next.
Definitely look into using Rufus to create a flash drive with Mint, let your laptop boot from it, and then just demo it for a few weeks. It’ll run slower than actually installing it to your computer but at least you’ll get a sense for if you actually want to pull the trigger or not (and if you don’t, unplug the drive and you’re back to booting your Windows environment with no harm done.)
Also on a quick note(I am saying that because that is what a lot of people hate on linux), download and try libre office before you change to see what you lose if you switch to libre office and if libre office did not work out for you, try only office and WPS office(both are available on linux) to see what is the best for you before you switch.
I personally use WPS office on linux with internet access turned off for it.
You already got some good replies, but I still have something to add:
It is extremely unlikely you will permanently brick your laptop. The realistically worst thing to happen is that you end up without any working OS, be it Windows or Linux. If you can get help you will be able to install Windows again (not that hard though to do by yourself).
Second thing is that Linux installers usually come with a live environment. That means that your windows installation is absolutely safe while Mint runs from your USB. You can then do some browsing or play around with Mint before deciding to install it permanently.
I switched to Linux (mint). It kind of sucked getting it set up but at least I don't have to deal with Microsoft much anymore.
I use the N version of windows, which is what they sell in the eu. I doubt copilot will ever be forcefully installed on my pc.
Surely there's GDPR and other issues here. How are they allowed do this with very sensitive, private data on machines.
The data never leaves the computer. Also this only applies to Copilot+ PCs which only the Snapdragon Elite is. No word if it will come to x86
The way I see it is someone will figure out a registry tweak to disable or cripple it.
I guess more linux market share then?
where meme?
It's easy enough to disable or change the settings to exclude apps. Not that it should be enabled by default, but it is part of initial account setup too.
Until it's "accidentally" turned back on during an update. Whoops.
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