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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 85 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I was feeling an itch to quantify this list and look at the impact of recent elections as well. Here’s the tallies as I found them from the source-

USA- 58 interventions, 3 since 2000

Soviet Union/Russia- 38 interventions, 9 since 2000

China- 20 interventions, 18 since 2000

Saudi Arabia- 4 interventions, 3 since 2000

Iran- 4 interventions, 3 since 2000

Israel- 3 interventions, all post-2000

India- 3 interventions, 2 since 2000

France- 3 interventions, 2 since 2000

There’s a smattering of others with 1-3 interventions but these were the main ones.

[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 32 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The US' glory days are clearly in the past 😔

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago

I’m happy to see most of the hypocrisy limited to the Cold War. Well, that we know of, at least.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)
[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

‘20, but yeah, pretty much par for the course for the Trump admin. Great example of the blowback not being worth it, but that’s never stopped the CIA from trying some dumbass shit.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 4 weeks ago

Makes sense, solidify capitalism globally and help crush any existing communist state. Jobs done so why continue I guess...

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

My take is the blowback isn’t really worth the effort (Iran as a prime example) so they’ve mostly stopped, but maybe that’s just me hoping for a less cynical reality.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

the US switched to sanctions and is now sanctioning like 30% of the world. For instance, afaik, the trump sanctions on venezuela started the current uptick of venezuelan refugees

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

The refugees as you call them have been steady since 2013, way before the sanctions to 7 specific individuals, but just in time for socialism to fail due to lack of money

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

the reality is there was a big uptick in border crossings and refugees about a year after the 2017 sanctions blocking oil sales that created a debt crisis and its only gone up since then

[-] andrewth09@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

Kids these days don't even know how to rig an election. What are they even teaching in schools.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 24 points 4 weeks ago

The Vatican City having one was a highlight for me

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The Vatican, another theocratic state instantiated by far right extremists. The Vatican as a modern nation state was formalized by Mussolini.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

Saudi Arabia- 4 interventions, 3 since 2000

This feels like an undercount.

Israel- 3 interventions, all post-2000

This feels like an enormous undercount.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 4 points 3 weeks ago
[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

They’re not the greatest to their former colonies. Gave Russia the opening in West Africa imo

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 34 points 4 weeks ago

This list is very incomplete. I'm noticing American coups in at least Pakistan with Imran Khan and 2020 Venezuela are missing. Also Afghanistan doesn't exist on that list?

[-] kersplomp@programming.dev 20 points 4 weeks ago

Cool, you should add those in and find some sources. It's Wikipedia

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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago

Always projection when the US shouts about others doing the same.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 48 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I mean, others are doing the same. We know because it makes it harder for us to meddle in foreign elections. And of course Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, they're going to interfere with our elections as much as they can. President Trump was very good for them, and his voters are easily swayed.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

It is a matter of scale, the US does it to grow and maintain hegemonic power and others react in kind.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 weeks ago

That makes it sound like you think that its only wrong with the US does it?

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 24 points 4 weeks ago

It's like American exceptionalism for people that don't like America

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 weeks ago

Welcome to Lemmy

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

No but there is a measure of who had caused the most harm for their own good. US #1

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago
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[-] Skua@kbin.earth 25 points 4 weeks ago

While responsible for more than any other country, they are not listed as responsible for a majority on that page. 57 out of 125.

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[-] cabbage@piefed.social 23 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I think it's unfair to the hard working people of the Kremlin to exclude any election featuring Geert Wilders, Nigel Farage, or Marine Le Pen from this list.

[-] kersplomp@programming.dev 5 points 4 weeks ago

Feel free to add it to the list. It's Wikipedia.

[-] aasatru@kbin.earth 21 points 4 weeks ago

It's funny how Israel is routinely interfering in US elections, considering that they're just a well trained US overseas territory according to folks over at the .ml instances.

[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 weeks ago

The most ethical instance in the world.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Liberal tries to strawman. ml but fails horribly.

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[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 weeks ago

Our greatest export: PODTOP

Peaceful Orderly Democratic Transition of Power

[-] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago
[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 weeks ago
[-] rimu@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago

Also also USA is the country who's elections are most intervened in - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_electoral_interventions#United_States

No interventions in any of China's elections for some reason.

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