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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, others are doing the same. We know because it makes it harder for us to meddle in foreign elections. And of course Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, they're going to interfere with our elections as much as they can. President Trump was very good for them, and his voters are easily swayed.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

It is a matter of scale, the US does it to grow and maintain hegemonic power and others react in kind.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 months ago

That makes it sound like you think that its only wrong with the US does it?

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 24 points 2 months ago

It's like American exceptionalism for people that don't like America

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

Welcome to Lemmy

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

No but there is a measure of who had caused the most harm for their own good. US #1

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago
[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago
[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You really think that for the entire duration of the russian empire and its successor states (to this very day) all those vassals actually had a say in their government? There’s no helping you.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago
[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

others react in kind.

Jesus Christ, dude. The russian empire predates the American state. They’ve been subjugating client states for a long, long time. They’ve been undermining the free will of countless Eurasian peoples for centuries. And they’re more active in that arena now than they were back in the old days.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

No need to be belligerent with commonly known facts. Still the 100+ year global hegemonic run of the US far exceeds the Eurasian hegemony of the Russian empire in terms of lives lost, economic impact, and ecological loss.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Stalin alone killed some 20 million people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_mortality_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin.

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