It’s completely wild that people drink cow hormone juice and then think that soy is affecting their hormones.
Not people, conservatives
It’s completely wild that people drink cow hormone juice
Yeah.
It's completely wild that... Husbandry exists? That we eat other animals? That we rot liquid food to drink it? That we use bacteria to curdle milk?
Hot bean juice!
I'm on your level. People get really weird about milk despite the fact that the majority of people consume animal flesh on a daily basis. Milk is way low on the weird food scale.
It is a badge i would wear with honor, because soy is awesome and the myth is bullshit.
afaik, it's not really a myth. it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens and it's often recommended as a supplement for HRT. Probably not enough to have much of an effect on its own though
it does actually have plenty of phytoestrogens
you think because it has "estrogens" in the name it turns you into a girl. phyto- means plant. are you a plant?
recommended as a supplement for HRT.
by who? facebook?
by who? facebook?
You know what I've been seeing on Facebook lately (qualifier, I use it for my local village group and those last few friends that refuse to use anything else)? People posting the fact that the AstraZeneca vaccine used a modified chimpanzee adenovirus and implying this is the cause of the mpox business.
I would 100% bet they got it from Facebook!
Exactly. It has a similar name in one of the ingredients. But: this ingredient is not estrogen and it basically has zero impact on the hormones in your body. And all experts know that. That's why there's no scientific papers supporting this whole soy / estrogen theory.
False, the phytoestrogens in beer are far more bioavailable, but also the animal estrogen in beef.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19524224/
Its basically been proven as bullshit, physiologically if you are healthy its not true. There MAY be edge cases where if you are lacking the vitamins/minerals/essential fats necessary for hormone regulation it MAY in SOME people cause SOME irregularity but edge cases are just that.
Phytoestrogens and estrogens have some similarities in their chemical structure and ability to bind to estrogen receptors, but they have important differences in their effects on the human body:
Estrogens are hormones produced naturally in the body, primarily in the ovaries in women. They are essential for sexual and reproductive development and function[5].
Phytoestrogens are plant-derived compounds that have a similar chemical structure to estrogens and can bind to estrogen receptors, but they are not hormones and are not produced naturally in the human body[1][4].
Phytoestrogens typically have much weaker estrogenic effects compared to human estrogens like estradiol[1][3]. The effects of phytoestrogens depend on factors like the specific type, dose, and individual differences in metabolism and estrogen levels[2].
Consuming phytoestrogens from foods like soy, flaxseeds, fruits and vegetables is unlikely to have a significant impact on estrogen levels or health, as the amounts are very low compared to what the body naturally produces[4]. Concentrated phytoestrogen supplements may have more noticeable effects.
In some cases, phytoestrogens may actually have anti-estrogenic effects by blocking estrogen receptors or reducing the body's own estrogen production[1][3]. This is thought to be due to their structural similarity to estrogens.
Some potential benefits of phytoestrogens that have been studied include:
However, the evidence is mixed, with many studies finding no significant effects[1][2]. Potential risks include:
Citations: [1] https://herkare.com/blog/estrogen-replacement-therapy-vs-phytoestrogens/ [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7468963/ [3] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/648139 [4] https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320630 [5] https://advancedhormonesolutions.com/do-you-know-the-difference-between-phytoestrogens-and-estrogen/ [6] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/ [7] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0149763421005558 [8] https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/phytoestrogen
The really funny thing about this is OP is egregiously wrong.
Soy doesn't contain estrogen, it contains phytoestrogen, which not only doesn't produce any estrogen-like side-effect, but actively prevents our bodies from taking and producing estrogenic hormones.
This is all very ironic, considering drinking ~~excessive~~ cows milk ~~leeches calcium out of our bones and~~ exposes us to a smorgasbord of hormones not designed for humans.
Soy is shit tier anyway, oat milk all the way.
This leeching effect is not true. It's a myth spread by alt-health providers.
At this point I just don't believe anything weird anyone has to say about food humanity has eaten for thousands of years unless they can back it up with real studies from real medical journals.
Right?!
Its all just marketing. We die for whatever reason anyways just let me eat in peace!
Doesnt cowmilk also actually have estrogen in it? Making it even more ironic?
Also cheese, eggs, meat, and even our environment due to waste products (feces, urine) generated by animal farms.
Out of all the things you can make out of soy, why milk? Tofu exists and it's grand-master based food. I'll smash several plates of mapo tofu without hesitation. Soy sauce, edamame, all ridiculously good shit.
See, what his coworkers did was good bullying. Anon learned something and also wasn't fired for whatever skeevy pseudosexual thing he was implying about his coworker, probably over politics. Winning hearts and minds, people.
It's phytoestrogen, dummy Anon.
Fragile bros terrified of phytoestrogen in soy will be chugging dairy milk without a single concern.
If you let your boss bully you into explaining what a soyboy is, you are in fact a soyboy
Omg do they really believe that?
There are people who do.
my family believes it completely. and hiding my actual estrogen is probably reinforcing their belief
How the fuck does this get posted all the time without anyone ever picking up on the fact that this workplace dynamic is obviously made up and anon is literally a 4chan kid who just changed the actors in his story from ''teacher' and "classmate" to 'boss' and 'coworker' so he wouldn't get banned on an 18+ imageboard.
On that day, anon found out he really is a soyboy soyjack. Did he learn anything else? Nobody cares, only that soyboy won't manage to pull that on anyone at work.
What kind of fuckin idiot thinks that soybeans have synthetic female hormones of a caliber that would feminize you or whatever.
The same kind of idiot that conveniently ignores all the hormones in meat and dairy used to maximize profit
The soy thing has to be one of the funniest delusions I've ever seen.
People convincing themselves that all liberals are vegans, all vegans eat a diet primarily of soy, and that soy has compounds similar to estrogen, so therefore all liberal men are feminized by their diets and are therefore weak (because being a woman is bad).
The number of weird things you have to believe out of insecurity to get to that conclusion are quite embarrassing. It's quite a self-report.
You can also reverse the argument into mockery, accusing conservative women of being too masculine because they don't eat enough soy, then bragging about how feminine soy-loving liberal women are.
The hilarious part is that the phytoestrogen in soy and other plants isn't compatible with our biology. High qualities studies hava failed to find an effect.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7468963/
Meanwhile the actual mammalian estrogen that is in animal products does get absorbed and effect our hormones.
yes I'm ~~boy~~ a nonbinary entity and I was raised on tofu so actualmente la verdad es que no soy boy
Had to read it a couple of times but great joke lol.
Reminded me if this
Sounds like something a soyboy would say.
I moved to a rural area a few years back and there’s a lot of farms here. Thus, many of the people I’ve met are farmers or have worked on farms. After a year or so of asking people what they raise/grow on their farms it finally happened and I met someone who said they grew soybeans. I asked him if he was a soyboy and he was really not amused.
I’m pretty sure he saw it coming too, when he said soybeans I had to have a huge shit eating grin on my face. I was waiting for that day
"feminism is bullying me"
lol what a self-own. Incels and antifeminists are stupid af. Give the patriarchy enough rope to hang itself
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