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Lmao.
I'm sorry to laugh, but it's just the absurdity of it all.
The downward spiral of Boeing is insane.
The irony of not being able to spiral downward, when spiraling downward.
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Why is NASA, a publicly funded science organization, fixing the mistakes of a for profit corporation?
Because for goddamn reason we socialize the losses and privatize the profits
Those reasons being monopolies and greed and corruption and capitalism.
Read the article.
Boeing might opt to cancel Starliner and leave NASA with just a single provider of crew transportation. That would be painful for both NASA and Boeing.
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But don't worry though, NASA says the astronauts are "not stranded".
Totally not stranded! The capsule that will bring them back just goes to another school.
Yeah, I am seriously upset. NASA press office seems to be telling lies left and right, and they think they're just pulling the old Washington spin cycle, but it's obvious lies. And they're easy out of line.
They issued a 248k "emergency" engineering study contract to SpaceX to support extra pax on the dragon. NASA press office claimed this award had absolutely nothing to do with Crew Test, but this was immediately contradicted by anonymous internal sources.
Heads need to roll at NASA PAO.
Totally not related. Just requested shortly after Starliner arrived at the station with issues. With an expeditious response. Totally normal procedures. Nothing to see here.
Yes, these headlines are continuing to say the astronauts are stranded, which really isn't the case. This vehicle is working well enough to return them at any time.
The thing is, there is something weird going on with some of the thrusters (of which there are many for redundancy) and this is their only chance to investigate the issue. If they were to return with the astronauts now, it would mean leaving the thrust module to burn up in the atmosphere, and then we wouldn't be able to test the problematic parts. We could still do that (leave now), but we'd miss out on this opportunity to test hardware and understand better why some thrusters failed.
On the other hand, this is still a huge waste of money and it's one more example of Boeing bungling things. So I'm not saying this is a great situation, just that the astronauts are not actually "stranded".
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Boeing doesn’t listen to their engineers, but we’re supposed to listen to their marketing department.
They're not. Whether they return on Starliner is the question. SpaceX can send a Dragon up to bring them back easily.
As far as the Starliner mission is considered, they are stranded. Dragon is the rescue mission.
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Two "not stranded" astronauts becoming increasingly stranded. More at 6
Holy shit. I got banned from reddit for saying the Boeing starliner astronauts should fear for their lives cuz Boeing. It was a joke, did not want it to become true! Hopefully they come home safe!
Wow that's actually crazy that they banned you for that lmao they couldn't make it any more obvious they got bought off by private companies, yikes. I'm glad Lemmy isn't prone to that, inherently by design.
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It was a joke, did not want it to become true!
Reddit is, in fact, a joke.
A total ban like mine?
I got banned for going to sniffies and bringing people from there to r/Seattlegay, which I started during the pandemic.
They banned me site wise on all my accounts and all my devices.
They banned me site wise for saying that riot police should quit their jobs following RvW. But all the right wing trolls spewing vitriol were perfectly acceptable.
I made a bunch of comments critical of the site and then banned myself (deleted account) before they could ban me. "You can't fire me, I quit!"
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When it had issues immediately post-launch, there were a LOT of Boeing-defenders: “oh no, keeping it there is a precaution, there’s nothing seriously wrong with it. They’re definitely not stuck on the station…”
Yeah. When this fucking death trap was launched WHILE HAVING ISSUES, I knew it wasn’t going to be a quick round trip. Frankly, I’d be amazed if those astronauts up there would be willing to take the return trip on it. NASA has a poor track record in that regard.
I absolutely love spaceflight and whole heartedly support programs. But Boeing needs to not be making spacecraft that humans fly on.
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Y’know one of those “options” was not to send it after the leaks were discovered.
Then they were all like, “Pffft. It’s fiiine. Just go.”
Then they were up there all, “Okay, so, slight delay”
Then, “Okay well that’s borked, but don’t worry, it’s all being handled.”
Now it’s “Options, anyone? Yes, all of them.”
A top option should also be removing the current Boeing board and C suite. What a debacle.
Your wish is granted.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/31/investing/boeings-losses-new-ceo/index.html
As announced earlier key board members are also resigning.
Have they rotated the deck chairs on the Titanic, or is this a meaningful change?
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Wait what, they are still up there ?
Wasn't it supposed to be postponed for just a few days so they can analyze the leaks and 'please move along nothing to see here'.
I had the same reaction a couple days ago when I saw they were still there. Definitely not a good look for Boeing.
They are considering sending a 737 max
It will certainly descend fast enough to get them home for dinner
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I'm just glad they have a ready-to-deploy backup plan. SpaceX is nailing it. I just hope that the future will remember the terrific work that Gwynne Shotwell and many others did while "someone else" where busy tossing money away.
Sorry, no. Fuck SpaceX. They are helping destroy everything.
https://www.independent.co.uk/space/elon-musk-spacex-starlink-internet-b2567423.html
Well, this was actually fkning concerning. Ofk is not like other Company aren't playing to launch thousand of satellites too. There should be a serious regulation and some heavy changes in the metal alloy used at very least. I'm sure that Trump already has a plan about it...
... ofk i'm fking kidding. Vote [everyone else] x president .
So we're starting to look at aluminum debris in the upper atmosphere, when are we going to look at carbon fibre debris? Or rocket fuel in the upper atmosphere? We dont know what any of that shit does. Im going to hazard a guess that it does nothing good.
If you were to light ten thousand Starlink satellites on fire in a bonfire on the ground people would put you in jail. When it happens in the upper atmosphere its called progress.
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It seems to me like we should be at the point where there should just always be a backup plan so the people taking the real risks don't have to sit around waiting for 8+ weeks as some people try to do best by them while others just try to cover their assess and pretend everything is ok because they are fucked if things aren't ok and might be inclined to risk lives in the hopes they get the good outcome.
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boeing should have all contracts cancelled and be broken up. every gov't. official that OK'd the starliner and this mission should be fired and investigated.
NASA spokesperson Josh Finch told Ars on Thursday evening, “NASA is evaluating all options for the return of agency astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams from the International Space Station as safely as possible. No decisions have been made, and the agency will continue to provide updates on its planning.”
A standard statement like this doesn't really warrant a news article.
That is a notable change from "we're just double checking things on the Starliner, which we think we can fix. We expect them to ride it home soon" that has been the message for a long time. Now it's "we're looking at all options".
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Well, time for the emergency knotted rope I guess.
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