Even having had time to prepare for this, and knowing it was essentially inevitable, this feels heavy in a way that I'm not sure how to express yet.
He needs to spend every free minute between now and his last day seating judges. Fuck blue slips. Appoint until there’s not a vacancy to be found.
Yeah, the Dems better not fuck up this hard pivot!
It doesn’t have to be hard. Harris should go to the top of the ticket, and the campaign apparatus stays the same.
Have her, a former prosecutor, debate Trump and treat that shit like a cross examination.
And make Sanders the VP to make me excited.
Sanders is too old. God love him, but it would not inspire confidence. If we're going for a prominent progressive on the ticket, we'd have to go AOC.
More likely though, Harris will pick someone who is an old white moderate male, though, unfortunately.
There's a difference between old and senile and ordinary old. Bernie is just old
Yeah but the uncommitted voter is a moron.
When you're in your 80s, decline can come about VERY quickly and without warning. It, unfortunately, is much more of a concern than it was in 2016.
I'd love someone like Hakeem Jeffries, Katie Porter, or (if God exists and is benevolent) Jasmine Crockett. Any of those choices would make me ecstatic.
I don't know Jasmine Crockett, but Katie Porter is so fucking sharp. No idea if she would run or could win, but she would be a great fucking President.
Katie Porter just lost her senate bid after getting fucked by Schiff. So she is available....
It is, and always has been, in the hands of the voters. It's the non-voters who fuck it up.
It's already fucked up. Biden dropping out just handed the whole fucking thing to Trump.
Edit: Alright, alright. This was a gut punch and I really felt Biden was our best shot. That said, this could be an opportunity and I'm here for it.
Oh, stop. We're you one of the ones also saying him not dropping out handed it to Trump? Or that the assassination attempt picture handed it to Trump?
Nothing has handed it to anyone. There are more liberal voters than conservative, including in battleground states. We just have to decide to rally around Harris and stop with the quibbling about one issue or another.
No I wasn't. I'm pretty well on record saying I'm worried that Kamala can't win, and if agitators are able to convince black voters that we are a bunch of racist hypocrites for not running her then no one else can win either. That's my stance and I'll be fucking ecstatic to be proven wrong.
Defeatism gets us nowhere. We live in unusual times - they are what we make of them. And I say we make this a Dem fucking victory so we don't have to live (or die) under a fascist fucking regime.
I'm going to do everything I can. I'm all in on whoever the candidate is. But right now at this moment, I'm feeling really fucking defeated. But I would be so happy to be wrong.
This is such an extraordinary circumstance that no one can predict what will happen. Don’t give up.
It’s not just that, it’s a chance at a fresh start to excite people about a new direction for this country.
Today, since there's an influx of comments essentially proclaiming "it's Joever, Trump Wins" or "Harris won't be able to win in November", I've had to resort to checking people's comments from a week before if they were saying Biden had a solid chance or if "everyone and anyone would be a bad choice so don't bother".
You were one that genuinely believed in Biden unlike some of the anti-US trolls. I'm sorry, you don't deserve the downvotes, I know your disappointment is legitimate. (You can see the user cabron who replied to you is one example of the other type I'm talking about). Don't give up, there is still hope yet.
I appreciate you taking the effort. And with a little time to reflect I'm not as disheartened as I was earlier. I think it's an uphill fight, but it was with Biden, too.
It was trump’s win ever since the debate. Pull your head out of the sand.
Nah this is just typical American behavior. After exhausting all the wrong options we are finally seeing Biden do the right thing.
No, I've talked to people who aren't MAGA, but weren't fans of Biden. If Harris can mop the floor with Trump in a debate (because he only looked strong because Joe was SO bad) she'd win over a lot of people.
So, now we get to see how many “blue no matter who”’s actually meant it.
Remember folks, it applies to anyone who might be the candidate.
That over…. Harris/AOC or Harris Whitmer !!
If the blue pick is a broken toaster oven, I'm still voting for it rather than tump
I'd vote for a battered cardboad cutout of Reagan over Trump. Hell. I'd vote for a cardboard cut out of trump over trump.
(cardboard cut outs can't talk.)
Kamala all the way! It won't be AOC or Whitmer though. Most likely Kelly or Newsom. AOC is the future, though.
I'm sure this was a really hard decision, but it shows courage and strength that Biden put his own ego aside for the good of the country...
...is what I would have said if he'd done this two weeks ago. Now, I'm just glad he was able to take off his narcissism glasses long enough to see how badly he was going to lose, and I hope his prolonged tantrum hasn't damaged Harris' chances too badly.
I wouldn't say this is bad timing in hindsight.
It relies on Democrats getting the message right though they'd faltered before. They get one more chance to fix it in this soft reset.
Give me a Jon Stewart / Katie Porter ticket!
Make it Harris / Stewart.
Harris up top because she’s already on the ballot, has Biden / Harris war chest, and won’t get as fucked with by republicans who try to block a new name.
If Kamala does become the new nominee, I wonder how hard Trump will fight to avoid debating her.
Shit would be funny as hell to watch. Trump would be balling by the end.
Why do you refer to the female candidate with her first name and the male candidate with his last name? The same thing regularly happens with Clinton. I assume the casual disrespect is not intentional but I'm very curious as to why this happens.
I think people tend to choose the more unique/recognizable name to call candidates by. For example, we also call Bernie Sanders by his first name more often than his last. “Harris” is a more common name than “Kamala”. “Clinton” could be confused for Bill, but “Hillary” isn’t going to be mistaken. I don’t think it has anything to do with the candidate’s gender.
"Harris" is a more common name than "Kamala", and "Donald" is a more common name than "Trump". This is just my opinion, but I think Kamala is a more powerful sounding name than Harris, and that helps with her image as a stern prosecutor who wants to crush injustice towards women.
"Clinton" refers (in most people's minds) to Hillary's husband Bill moreso than Hillary herself. In her campaign, she leveraged her first initial for her slogan "I'm with Her" with the stylized right-pointing arrow in the H. For her, it seems to be her choice and more clear. For Harris, it just seems to be because "Kamala" sticks out in people's minds more than her last name.
They want to signal that they’re close to them, like Springsteen fans calling him “Bruce”.
I'd forgotten what hope felt like.
Assuming the new candidate(probably Harris) avoid any major disasters as does Trump, we’ll be returning to the May 2024 status quo of things. Harris is more popular than post-debate Biden, was slightly behind pre-debate Biden, and will probably need a month to get back there(winning the nomination and undoing all the damage from 4 weeks of infighting.)
On the plus side, that’ll drop the hemorrhaging, New Mexico and New Jersey safe, Virginia and Minnesota probably safe. On the downside at this point Georgia and North Carolina are lost, there just isn’t time and the Republicans spent 4 years pouring resources into them.
This is back to the main 5. Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. The important factor is that if they lose Pennsylvania, they lose. They can win the other 4 here, but it’s 268-270. Unless they snag something extra like Georgia(unlikely in this scenario), that’s it.
If they win Pennsylvania, they need at least two others in ideal circumstances(Michigan needs to be one of the two and Nevada can’t be one of the two, second one would have to be Wisconsin or Arizona), 3 others in unideal circumstances if Michigan isn’t there and they get Nevada. I should also note several of these scenarios are razor thin (270-268 with Pensylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin and 271-267 with Arizona instead) and thus vulnerable to faithless electors. Or worse, if Maine’s statewide went red(which is more likely than Georgia going blue or Virginia going red at this point) the former would be a win and the latter would be a tie. In the tie scenario the House picks the president(so Trump) and the Senate picks the Vice President(so Vance would be ousted) which would be an absolute nightmare and gambling on Trump dying in that situation isn’t worth it.
I note this because even in the base line May scenario Pennsylvania was one of the worse polling one for democrats(Arizona and Wisconsin were the blue edging ones), and Pennsylvania is not a state where the stars are aligning. It was Biden’s home state, Scranton boy, him being off the ticket hurts things there probably more than they help. AND, while it’s true nationwide the post-shooting bump for Trump was relatively minor, Pennsylvania is where the shooting happened and has gotten the largest bump in the polls since, 3 or 4 points. Biden leaving demotivates the base there harder than anywhere else in the county and the Trump shooting re-motivated the base there harder than most.
My call? If they don’t pick Shapiro or Whitmer, it’s over 100%, and even with it’s iffy. Pennsylvania is perhaps the one state where any replacement is going to do worse than Biden even post-debate, and the one state the Trump shooting caused a notable bump. What are the odds it’s also the single most crucial state in this election?
I disagree. Harris is basically polling within the margin of error of Biden, that's true, but she's also been the incredible invisible woman basically forever. It's to the point that really the best the republicans can do against her atm is ads that amount to "LOOK AT HER LAUGHING >:{". There's good and bad there, but the positives outweigh the negatives in that she's something of a known quantity at the national level, she's got experience in the executive branch, and she really doesn't have much baggage to speak of while still being able to claim Biden's wins. If the democrats lean in behind Harris, get her polished up and just re-tool the Biden campaign for her, and she goes swinging out of the gate, I think she'll make for a strong contender.
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