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I wish Germany would bring its sugar tax that we abolished in 1973 back. To be fair a lot of people are agreeing it has to come back by now, so chances are good that we'll soon have one again.
I think with Lauterbach as minister we have quite good chances. I was honestly kind of surprised to read that they are attempting to ban supervised drinking. Didn't think the CSU of all parties would support that
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That's not because the sugar tax was enough.
It's because the drink manufacturers mostly just stopped selling the full sugar versions, which kind of sucks for anyone who hates the taste of artificial sweeteners. Even squash like Robinsons became undrinkable. It tastes like battery acid.
There's only really Coca-Cola left that tastes the same as it did before. Lemon and lime drinks like 7-Up or Sprite almost cover the taste of it, so they'll do in a pinch. Otherwise I just drink water and cider. Apparently alcoholic drinks don't need to tell you how many calories are in them either, so I'll assume it's none and carry on looking confused when I get on the scales.
So now people are avoiding sweet drinks not because they cost too much in taxes, but…because they taste like battery acid.
That’s still achieving the overall goal.
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It worked so of course they didn't extend it to other things with more hidden sugars (things like pasta sauce, flavoured yoghurts etc)
gtfo of here with sugar in my pasta sauce. It makes no sense and tastes bad.
And boxed macaroni and cheese, hamburger helper, etc. NoW wItH AdDeD SuGAr! Get all the way out of here with that nonsense. Stopped eating it a while ago, but people depend on cheap easy meals.
I like sugar in some pastas it cuts the acidic down for me.
Add a tiny bit of bicarb to cut the acid down. Sugar just makes it sweeter and doesn't actually do anything about the acid.
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I add sugar when I make pasta sauces all the time, also to stews and stir fries. It's a nice dimension.
If you're doing it yourself you've got control over how much you're adding. It's the pre made sauces they are the problem where they use it as a cheap way of masking how shit the tomatoes they're using are.
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back to brown ale, then, Timmy
The comments here are incredible. Are we being botted by Big Sugar?
A billion dollar industry would never do such a thing.
That, and sugar is insanely addictive.
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Who would have thought?
bruh just ban all sugary drinks, it's not that hard
They do have their place- just that place isn't "something you can just drink every day without thinking about"
Unpopular opinion: The really bad ones, not talking about orange juice here, should be treated similarly to energy drinks. Banned for under 16 and taxed high.
Orange Juice is not meaningfully better than most sugar heavy drinks.
I have this argument with my wife a lot. She says that because the OJ is natural sugar it's okay.
But the high-fructose corn syrup used in a cola is also natural sugar in the sense that it was grown on a farm. There even happens to be less of it in your average soda than in juice.
And I'm not really saying that you should drink soda instead of juice because it's healthier, but somehow fruit juice is one of those things people think is good for them.
Something I like in some of Europe is that food just has a rating on it. Not only are they stricter about food pretending to sound healthy it will just straight say this juice is a D.
In the US every company spends millions to make their sugar appear more healthy and it works.
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There's nothing inherently wrong with sugary drinks. It's just how often you have them.
Some people don't like sugar free and sweeteners come with their own problems.
There is something inherently wrong with them. It's liquefied nutrition that's been designed to create an addiction and provide nothing but calories. It's marketed as a companion to meals, or as sports drinks, or as a convenient "pick me up". It's marketed to children, to poor people without alternatives. They are inherently predatory and harmful to your health.
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Exactly. Dose makes the poison. Also, artificially sweetened drinks are all garbage.
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then you'll probably end up with a black market of sugary drinks, and people will go to great lengths to get it.
It's almost as if this happened before with something else
It's more nuanced than that. In the case of sugary drinks however, since they are really easy to make, you won't even need a black market.
It's people like you that we can't have nice things. oh some Germans in Germany has started genociding Jews out of existence, so that must mean that all Germans are evil Nazis. you only consider moderation when their is a obvious utility. like oh you don't need alcohol to survive, but because some people get addicted to alcohol. we must ban alcohol, so no one will get addicted ever again. we seriously need to learn moderation and nuance. we really need to collectively agree that I'm not your mom and neither is the government. Otherwise we will be asking ourselves, what is the point of enjoyment? People who are miserable breath just fine, and if you enjoy something too much you might get addicted.
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And the amount of aspartame has doubled
So? That's way less bad
Aspartame can lead to overeating. Some research also point to liver cancer.
Ok, now do sugar, and compare the statistical quality of the evidence too please
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As someone with an intolerance to artificial sweeteners, I'll never forgive Jamie Oliver for pushing the sugar tax, alongside his insistence on "improving" school meals that resulted in mass outsourcing of school food to the lowest bidder.
Kids aren't drinking less soft drinks than before, the drinks themselves have just replaced sugar with chemicals and byproducts that aren't particularly healthy themselves...
replaced sugar with chemicals
OH NO, NOT SCARY CHEMICALS!!!111
Sugar is a chemical, ya dolt. So is water. So are most of the components that make up you.
Man, education has really taken a nose dive...
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The point that should be taken from your comment is not that they replaced the sugar with something else because we dont yet know if the aspartame is better or worse than sugar, though we do k ow that sugar is bad in large quantities.
What should be noted is that the study found that sugar consumption has halved, which seems to be a no brainer as the majority of soft drinks either contain half the amount or no sugar. I belive in the UK at least pepsi has half the sugar and almost everything else has no sugar. Coke is the only one that still has the full sugar content it had before. But they sell coke zero at such a low price now and push it with alternative flavours that it is being consumed in higher quantities than ever.
The point being, yeah, the tax stopped drinks makers using sugar so the sugar consumption dropped.
Like i stopped using salt to season my food and i found that my salt intake lowered... wow. Thats crazy.
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