Your intolerance of the bovine secretions have severely reduced my desire to mate with you
This came back from "cow of judgement -"crow" " on DDG.
Cheese was the one thing that kept me from going fully vegan for some time. Don't care about meat, don't care about milk, but cheese, cheese is special.
Similar boat here. I've been vegetarian for 18+ years now, and my meals have been vegan most days lately, but I don't know if I'll ever fully cut out cheese.
Vegan cheeses have improved a lot. I've been vegan for almost 25 years, and the last few years have been the best for cheese alternatives. I don't know if you're in the US or if these are international brands, but Miyokos and Parmela Creamery both make some good stuff.
I feel like it varies quite wildly. Hard cheese seems to be pretty difficult to emulate well, while softer cheeses seem to be more doable (though there are some horrible ones). We have a local store that makes their own vegan replacements for stuff, and they have some soft cheeses that use the same mold as the originals, and they're pretty good.
If you haven't had cheese in 25 years, I can see how you'd think the snotty vegan approximations are acceptable.
-A vegetarian who is also addicted to cheese
Fair enough point on its face, but if you haven't tried any new offerings lately, you should check in. I've made grilled cheese and quesadillas for vegetarians that couldn't tell the difference. Probably the more specialty or fancier cheeses don't have good substitutes yet. I hope they don't bother replicating feta ;)
Oh hey, I tried vegan feta in salads recently, and it was almost indistinguishable (to me), which was surprising! I didn't expect it to actually be good, lol
Oh yeah, the oat milk stuff is pretty good and has been taking the place of cheese in the majority of my meals lately.
I'm still waiting the rest of the world to find out that there are so many types of pizza with no cheese
Are any of them good?
They have no cheese so no
Yes. Cheese can be overpowering for more subtle toppings, it's also fairly high in salt. You don't really notice the salt, unless you mix it with other topping that are also salty.
BBQ sauce with jalapeno and nutritional yeast is pretty good. The nutritional yeast give that cheese-like funk without the salt combining with the jalapeno, or counteracting the sweet of the bbq sauce.
Also, the cheese also ruins some flavours like kimchi, bruschetta, or chimichurri.
That's just bread. Pizza is bread topped with sauce and cheese, end of discussion.
Not according to the Italians. You'd be astonished at how unimportant they consider cheese as a topping. It's the bread and the sauce that matter. Everything else is a garnish.
I share the opinion that pizza is bread with sauce and cheese.
However, I am open to change my mind because there is always room for more pizza in my life. What's everyone's favorite non-cheese pizzas?
If your pizza is same as bread then you're eating terrible pizza, I'm sorry
I’d rather have pizza with no cheese than pizza with no red sauce but again, it’s like saying I’d rather have no green cones than no red cones in my eyes. Having both adds and extra dimension.
Cheese apologism is cowardice
I need that image of the crow.
https://imgur.com/gallery/crow-of-judgement-7iWB3HT - Cleaned up from sauce but might need more JPEG.
http://owlmeat.blogspot.com/2008/12/grackle-day-poem.html - Sauce
Is it lactose intolerance? Because that's a weak argument. Lactose can be broken down in the gut in one of two ways, for the lactose tolerant, this is through an enzyme called lactase, which you create in your gut naturally. It separates the lactose into smaller parts that can be digested normally.
For the lactose intolerant, they lack (or at least underproduce) lactase in the gut, so the breakdown of lactose to its more basic chains is done through fermentation (or something similar), which produces significant amounts of methane gas. That extra pressure in the gut causes your body to flood the area with whatever water it can, which creates the unpleasant experience associated with lactose for the intolerant.
But get this... Science has found a way to package lactase into a pill that you can take. I know right? Mind blown. So you take the pills before or during your lactose filled meal and... You're fine. Amazing!
Science.
It all sounds great on paper but as someone that is lactose intolerant I can tell you that those little lactase pills do not always work and a single small ice cream cone is enough to completely ruin my evening.
Cheese is fine though. The vast majority of cheeses are actually naturally low in lactose, because most of it is in the whey.
My father is foodie. He fucking loves cheese and milkshakes and lots of dairy. He claims lactaid pills don't do much for him. I wouldn't know because I can pretty much eat anything.
I really dont care for cheese as a general rule, the exceptions being unless it’s a on a pizza, potentially on a cheeseburger although I’d prefer it without, or otherwise incorporated into a recipe to the point where I can’t tell(I almost always can unfortunately). It’s based in sensory issues I have tried many times to overcome through trial and error, and I hate this aspect of myself, but this is a relatable screenshot from both romantic and platonic relationships over the years
I have a thoughts this a lot since dietary restrictions became the new badge of courage. I’m from the olden days where we were embarrassed and shamed for our shortcomings… My least favorite is the person with a dietary restriction they aren’t even up to speed on. Damn my toxic masculinity! Thanks, Dad…
It was pretty tough working at a bakery stall at farmers markets when people were just starting to jump on the gluten free train. I'd have folks come up to me and start screaming at me that they needed spelt bread because of their celiac disease, and I was a heartless bitch for not having any. Explaining that spelt actually has more gluten than regular wheat was not a good idea, nor was explaining that to be safe for a person with celiac disease, bread would need to be 1) free of gluten containing grains, not just wheat and 2) baked in a facility where the air is not thick with wheat flour dust, depositing itself on every surface. "Give me my special bread! IT MAKES ME FEEL SPECIAL!!!"
Those people also frustrate the hell out of my aunt with actual celiac disease. She's basically had to stop eating in restaurants because there's no real way for her to differentiate between "gluten-free" and "no, no really, we cooked all of this in a completely separate area of the kitchen with dedicated utensils that never come into contact with anything from the other side of the kitchen"
She has a couple of places she can trust, but just trying out new places for funsies is not a thing she could ever do.
This is really a thing ive been wondering about USA... Dont you have lactose free products? I mean, if the tiny Nordics can and do produce lactose free versions of pretty much everything, in pretty much every possible place, why cant you?
Is it a sadism/eugenics thing (kidding but not 100% kidding)?
One interesting thing about lactose free products is, that most aren’t lactose free. They only contain the enzymes to digest the lactose. If you are lactose intolerant this is perfectly fine, but if you’re allergic to lactose it doesn’t change anything for you
We do. Vegan soy cheese is in a lot of groceries now, but usually only specialized restaurants will offer fake cheese as an option. We're just starting to get fake meat in various eateries, and that's still mostly limited to burgers.
A few pizzerias around here will offer a cheese -less pizza or other vegan options (fake cheese, onions paste instead, etc).
Edit: oh we also have milk and cheese but engineered to be lactose free. I'd say that's even rarer in restaurants than vegan options though.
Why judge someone for not consuming dairy in the first place? Like, what, you only date baby cows?
It's not a dairy issue, I don't care if you don't drink milk. Cheese is the best food group and is the pinnacle of human existence
Personally, if I were to choose a food to be the pinnacle of human existence, it wouldn't be one that's inedible to the majority of the world.
As long as they can eat pasta so we can do the Lady & the Tramp thing, it's all good. No celiacs disease bf/gf for me, thanks.
Edit: people with gluten allergies must really wanna kiss me Lady & The Tramp style.
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